gtsum
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The ninja has more low end power then the ws7iii, no question about it. I ran a ninja for about 3 gallons and I raced a modded WS7III for a whole weekend at a private track. The RB can scream, no doubt, but it is more mid range and top end...I would not gain on him (and he was not pulling away from me) 2/3rds of the way down the straight, but if we were even coming out of the turn, I would pull him every time. The Ninja puts the power to the ground very, very easily...it is just soooo smooth. The RB is a little more peaky, but in the hands of a good driver, they are incredibly fast on the track. (I ran the ninja with a 53 pipe and the RB had a 2045 I believe). They are both great engines - the Ninja being more linear and smooth, the RB being a mid/top end mill. You cannot go wrong with either one (I assume this is for a buggy?).
There are a LOT of good motors out there - and realistically, maybe 10-15% of the RC racers out there can fully utilize all the power they put out. Too much bottom end, and the average racer is all over the place...top end? When is the last time a race was won or lost on the lone straightaway?!?! Driver skill, tire selection, and buggy setup would be the top three reasons why driver ""a"" wins the main, and driver "b" is in last place IMO. I now run a Nova P5 and a Max Power M5, and they are both stronger then my Ninja was, but my lap times are not any faster - AND I got beat out of TQ spot 2 weekends ago by a kid with a sportwerks motor in his 8ight (vs my 8ight)...he is just a faster driver then I, even though I had more motor...just some food for thought for ya....
Look at the fat stuff. Here you say it's better to have bottom end? No i understand. If there is too much bottom end your car spins to much end your car fly all over the place accept the track. Is that correct?
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The reason why it is so hard to find a good exhaust is becease: Dam than engine makes 43:000 rmp's thats the reason. You need almost an onroad pipe to get top speed out of it.
You have it....what I meant to say is that these mills today have more then enough power then 99% of us weekend warrior racers will ever need - the Ninja (to me), has a great balance of low end, mid range, and top end - it has more then enough low end, but not so much as to be hard to drive. The mid range and top end are great as well. It just has a very usable powerband...there are stronger motors out there for sure, but the ninja in a buggy is very good combo...and yes, get yourself a nova 53 pipe for it - best overallpipe for this mill...here is a graph of the different pipes - look at how peaky the Ninja 1005 pipe is (the one they recommend...this is differen then the ninja adjustable pipe)
< Message edited by gtsum -- 7/11/2007 5:16:16 PM >
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But it is widely accepted that the ninja is a tricky engine to find a pipe for, it seems to suffer with anything but the Ninja pipes. Thanks for the info anyway, I wasn't aware that pipe worked well.