THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOTOR POWERED GLIDER IS SECOND TO NONE!

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THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOTOR PO... - 7/10/2007 6:07:44 AM

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THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOTOR POWERED GLIDER IS SECOND TO NONE!

This new upgraded beauty is so neat I couldn't resist buying a "back-up" one just in case. The new FM radio is a single stick design that I feel a lot more comfortable using with prospective new flyers than the old two stick transmitters that I have grown to personally enjoy flying with myself. Interestingly, my old AM receiver worked so well in ground testing of my original Badius that I put up a flight using the new single stick FM transmitter. The motor behaved very strangely, so after landing I went ahead and installed the extra FM receiver that I had ordered with my second EXCEED-RC AB flying machine. I still have one Badius left that uses the older two stick transmitter.

The AB really is a great plane for beginners who can literally be in the air in minutes from the time they open the box, as well as for "advanced intermediate" modelers who enjoy modifying the plane for special performance purposes. I am really excited about flying and "crash resistance" performance that can be built into the machine that will be reported on after I learn just what can be accomplished with this plane.

More excitement later.

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P.S. I did run into one very minor problem that I found on two of my transmitters that was very easy to fix. Since others may run into the same problem (I know of a former "Chief Editor of MODEL AVIATION magazine who described the same symptoms I had), here is the fix: The transmitter battery on the left side while looking at the batteries from the back needs the coil of wire connecting the negative battery post "bend adjusted" for better contact to get proper voltage/current flow for correct transmitter operation.

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOTO... - 7/11/2007 10:45:12 AM

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I agree! I fly in morning ,when wind is calm,my various planes and when the wind comes up, I break out the Accipiter Badius, I purchased the yellow polyhedral wing for easier visual control on my white bodied plane. The control rods are thick, the electrics are laid out well and all flights are relativly fast. For $65.00, I have yet to find one I like as much! It seems a bit noseheavy, but reguardless, take the glider to 300 feet or so, under power, shut down the motor and attempt duration glides! Just a great introduction to powered gliding!

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOTO... - 7/12/2007 12:48:29 AM

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Ibnaci, Great to hear about your success. I definitely agree with you about the yellow AB. The reason I chose two (2) new white ABs is because I have a lot of white Coverite material that I am using in my modification work. When I finally get the performance I am looking for I plan to end up with operational and standby ships for demo and flight training purposes.

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOT... - 7/12/2007 1:07:06 AM

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Thanks for the info guys. I've been thinking about getting this model and I'm now convinced that I should do it. Besides, I'm tired of the wind blowing my planes and helicopters "off the field" so to speak.

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOT... - 7/12/2007 1:28:50 AM

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FMB42,

You won't be sorry for your choice. There is a "whole army" of Badius flyers out here who love this airplane and enjoy being helpful to new Badius owners. It really is an ingenious design.

Keep us posted on your experiences.

Tally Ho!

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOT... - 7/12/2007 7:32:32 AM

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can anyone hook me up with a link, i thnk i saw something like this on raidentech.com, but they have alot of knock offs

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOT... - 7/12/2007 7:50:26 PM

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Schuh, the one raidentech carries is the AB, they also have the different wings and replacment parts at good prices. reinforcing the wing with packing tape is the first mod to make, this helps keep it from trying to fold during hard pull ups and in loops.

FMB don't be mislead, the AB is affected by wind like many other planes but mods can be made to help it handle it very well, also experience at flying in the wind is very important to success
Good luck it's a good little plane

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOT... - 7/13/2007 10:21:39 PM

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Will do Mad Web, and thanks!

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experience at flying in the wind is very important to success

How true AJ1202. I haven't spent much time in "windy" conditions and it shows. The AB (or my thrashed SD Cub), at a whopping 70 bucks, might make a OK (?) plane to spend time in the wind with. What mods do you guys recommend for "windy" conditions?

P.S. I've been out with a bad case of heli fever and am trying to get back into the fixed wing side of things.

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOT... - 7/15/2007 1:04:24 AM

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FMB42, The included url brings up my "ULTIMATE COST EFFECTIVE WINDY WEATHER MODIFIED ACCIPITER BADIUS POWERED GLIDER" thread that you might find useful.
I like this AB version so much that I enjoy flying it while my more aerobatic AB modified version is cooling down and/or to just enjoy the more stable, slower (less nerve wracking in windy weather) flying performance when I really don't need to fly any outside maneuvers.

Extra control surface power with the center of gravity adjusted further forward than is comfortable in mild, pleasant flying conditions can help optimize flying in windy weather. On my newest AB that will function as a back up in case my operational ABs are not available I will be reversing the location of the servos so that it will not be necessary to use a "bell crank" of any kind in order to enjoy "bind free" operation of my simple but very effective "single flaperon" system that helps provide very useful control in turbulent weather.

My simplest flaperon system has a 15 square inch flaperon connected to the rudder servo via a simple 1/32" plywood lever. This lever which is about the length of a servo arm is mounted in front of the rudder servo using a brass bushing glued to the inside of the fuselage so that an 18 gage length of "bend adjustable" soft steel wire can move the lever back and forth freely.

A hole right next to the servo driven hole on the lever is used to provide pushrod movement to the flaperon. I use the 18 gage wire with a "V " bend adjustment at a convenient location between the hole in the fuselage and the flaperon's control horn that is made of (you guessed it) 18 gage wire with a small "bend adjustable V" so precise deflection angles can be easily made by simply opening or closing the "V."

I always make a small plywood bushing for all control parts that use the 18 gage wire to avoid any possible interference problems. The left wing panel needs to have a fixed flap with the same area as the flaperon. With rudder and coupled flaperon you have a very powerful roll and directional control not available with rudder only. It is easy to thread a "Z" bend pushrod into the single control horn when installing the wing on the plane.

Control surface deflection angles are plus/minus 15 degrees on the 15 square inch flaperon and plus/minus 40 degrees on both my oversize rudder and elevator. I use 1/16 balsa for all control surfaces with recommended "park flyer" tape hinges. The rudder is double the area of the stock rudder area and the elevator is about 25% larger than stock.

When I finally get my newest web page finished, pictures will hopefully make the above description very clear. Until then don't hesitate to ask questions, try to keep the plane upwind as much as possible, always use full power in any down wind turning, and remember - ALTITUDE IS LIFE!

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_5802316/anchors_6063024/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#6063024

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOT... - 7/15/2007 2:19:09 PM

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Thanks for all the info mad web tv s! My son and I used to watch RC sail planes fly near a lake we used to visit and he enjoyed doing this more then fishing. These pilots made it look so easy and graceful... My son wanted a sail plane but he already had too many buggies, on road racers, and boats at the time.

Thanks again for the help.

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOT... - 7/18/2007 6:54:45 PM

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FMB42,

You are very welcome! Your post brings out some of the pleasures that can help make modeling the truly wholesome positive cultural force that I not only believe it ought to be, but will be once esoteric "traditions" are vanquished.

I just finished testing my latest but not greatest full symmetrical wing for use on my original "war weary" yellow Accipiter Badius glider. Because I insisted on using thickened CA glue before it would no longer be usable, and slopped too much "old thickened Balsarite" to stick the covering down on an old repaired Badius wing, I ended up with a "glider" with disappointing gliding performance - too much weight.

My new "Exceed AB" flies and glides great with its "almost symmetrical wing." The subtleties of weight, airfoil, etc., on flying performance can provide some really fun challenges.

Normally I will fly my old AB with its flaperon equipped aerodynamically stock wing and change to the symmetrical one just to practice/demonstrate outside maneuvers. When I go on trips I plan to bring only one AB with both types of wings to save space.

I hope my old bird will fly well enough with its "new symmetrical wing" so that I can bring it on trips. All the repairs, etc., are great for story telling purposes that helps enhance modeling pleasures. Here at home I like to bring at least two planes out to the field to enjoy the variety in flying performance without the need to change wings.

This is beginning to get a little long now so I will stop and save some of the rest of my reaction to your post till later.

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOT... - 8/3/2007 5:16:24 AM

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FMB42, Just a quick report on the gliding ability of the stock AB wing vs. the simi symmetrical airfoil wing - the stock wing on a heavier airplane can be hand glided consistently 15 percent further than the lighter, more aerobatic simi symmetrical airfoil wing equipped AB ship in 85 degree weather. Test gliding in 65 degree weather demonstrated less than a 5 percent difference! More later after more testing.

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOTO... - 8/7/2007 3:23:39 AM

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Ibnaci, Yes, like yourself I really do enjoy gliding my ABs. My "heavy" old battle scarred yellow AB that I have been flying for over a year is now "retired" to be used only as a back up for my new yellow AB that glides noticeably better as a result of its lighter weight and lower drag.

The under cambered stock wing really showed its superiority in lift today when I flew first with a 650 mAh and then with a 1200 mAh battery. The yellow bird performed very well on both batteries. Although the yellow "stock wing airfoil" AB and my simi symmetrical airfoil wing white AB glided almost identically with 45 - 55 yard flights from hand launching, the simi symmetrical "warbird wing" airfoil equiped plane simply would not gain altitude very well when loaded with its big battery for powered flight. With the light little batteries you would never suspect that there was a problem with my "snappy" performance "WARBIRD AB." It really is fun to fly but is limited to light batteries in order to enjoy good performance.

Testing is finally over (well almost over - there is always something that must be tested). From now on I will be having fun mostly with practice, practice, practice, for demo flying.

madwebtvscientist

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RE: THE NEW "EXCEED-RC ACCIPITER BADIUS" MOT... - 8/15/2007 3:04:41 AM

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For some updated fun click:

http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6239285/anchors_6239285/mpage_1/key_/anchor/tm.htm#6239285

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