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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 12:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great design Tatoo! Built it saturday, flew it sunday, grinning ear to ear! OS .32 with a 34" span.

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Knife Edge? Tatoo - 4/1/2003 12:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tatoo - will your new QHOR (aka - Awesome - HOR ) knife edge? I was hoping that with the profile style fuse that it might be a possibility, pending on its rigidity.
And, how did you fasten the profile fuse to the top of the wing? I believe that you said that you cut the fuse out after you positioned the wing to the aluminum fuse (back bone).
I am thinking of doing a 'AWE-HOR' with individual aileron servos (probably Hitec 225's, so I can play with mixing), and counter balanced rudder and elevator. This is way I am asking these questions. Also, where are you finding the PVC gutter pipe. I've checked my local sources (ACE hardware, Lowes, Home Depot) without any luck.
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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 12:29 AM   
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Re: Knife Edge? Tatoo - 4/1/2003 1:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		[QUOTE]Originally posted by kevin4hsrcm
Also, where are you finding the PVC gutter pipe. I've checked my local sources (ACE hardware, Lowes, Home Depot) without any luck.
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hey there Kevin,
tell me how long of a piece you need....i will mail you some.
just cut out all the parts last nite...will assembel mine tonite then post some pics.....wierd shopping at home depot and wal mart for r.c. parts

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 2:27 AM   
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I need gutter pipe to make about 10 PBFs, and 10 QHORs. I think my club has finally got the bug - PBF bug! I would like to see it turn into a SPAD BUG! . Don't worry Hacker, I'll find it someplace! Thanks anyways! Meantime, I've been using the conventional control horns. They work just fine. I just have a couple of more bucks, literally, in my PBF (Though reuseable on the next SPAD )


Woodman - I like it! I really like the way you mounted your fuel tank too - conventional profile method. This gets the fuel pick-up more in line with the carb! Nice job! I think I am going to starting drawing up my tail feathers & fuse tonight on CAD.

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 3:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hey thanks Kevin. Yeah I have been through the flooded engine stage with my past combat planes. The engine mount er.... cutting board poly stuff sticks out just far enough to catch the tank. I used a very small cup hook screwed into the poly motor mount and secured it with rubberbands.

I think on my next HOR I will split the elevator and use a y-yoke pushrod with individual horns on each half of the elevator. Then I will extend the rudder down past the elevator with a skeg on the bottom. Maybe this will help with the knife edge performance. I had a lot of coupling with my plane. It knife edged like my old retired wasp....

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 5:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Woodman - I was thinking of mounting the elevator servo on its side on the underside of the aluminum rail so that I can set-up a Pull-Pull on both the rudder and elevator. I do plan on incorporating a wire skid in the tail to semi-protect the elevator servo on the bottom. I am debating on staggering the tail surfaces. I probably start-off semi-stk set-up (over-sized surfaces, of course ). I printed out the TACO II's profile fuse from Paul's plans. I will probably use it for the profile fuse to start-off with.
As far as the coupling in the knifed edge, that doesn't bother me, as long as it knifed edges, that's fine!
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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 6:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mine tries to knife edge, but I don't think it's the aircraft's fault it rolls out...I'd blame the pilot's brain for failure to be able to turn left while flying sideways and feed ailerons at the same time...Yahoooo! But I'm starting to get the hang of it and I think the plane can do it...man I'm having a blast with this!



Oh yeah, and as an addition to the existing QHOR plans, I did up a few pages for the Profile QHOR (PQHOR) if anyone is interested

http://members.cox.net/spad/pics/pqhor01.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spad/pics/pqhor02.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spad/pics/pqhor03.jpg
http://members.cox.net/spad/pics/pqhor04.jpg

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 6:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		That'll work!Drop a little weight as well. The possibilities are endless with this design. Cheap to!

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Tattoo - 4/1/2003 6:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Could you post some dimensions on the ailerons and tail dimensions, I really like your plane.

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I FOUND IT - 4/1/2003 6:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sorry Tattoo I just wasn't looking I guess,, I found the dimensions.

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 6:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		Tattoo, That seems to be a lot of my problem too!! Ha!

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 7:01 AM   
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Woodster - 4/1/2003 7:12 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yours doesn't look like Tattoo's.lol Don't tell Ronnie,,LOL.

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 7:20 AM   
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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 9:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Sukhor.....??!! Damn you beat me to it. I'll have to make mine a TopCap-hor. But I'm still one up on ya's for having the first video out....lol.

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 10:01 AM   
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Video? What video?

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 11:32 AM   
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COVERING THE QHOR??? - 4/1/2003 12:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Can you guys give me some hints on what to use use for covering this thing?And how. Thanks art43


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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 1:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Art43, coroplast doesnt need covering! We just use scraps of vynil from sign shops for decoration and trim.

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COVERING - 4/1/2003 1:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		So the vynil is fuel proof? What do u do with the Coro. wipe it down with Alcohol first, befor using your vynil? Thanks art43


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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/1/2003 4:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		[So the vynil is fuel proof? What do u do with the Coro. wipe it down with Alcohol first, befor using your vynil?
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QHOR's are just great flying signs or great flying sign material. If you use vinyl from sign shops, it and the coro, are designed together to take heat, sun, chemicals even fuel! Just make sure it's clean from oils so, yes, wipe it down with alcohol.
BTW, You can get some neat reflective colors that are like road signs!

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/2/2003 3:14 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Tattoo ...

You're the best !! Those 4 pages you did up answer all my questions.


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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/3/2003 11:04 AM   
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any instructions or link on how to build that GeeBeeGhor ?


Here's the dimensions

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Building a QHOR, PQHOR, and a SPA3D - 4/3/2003 9:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		I got to wring out my Qhor yesturday. I really like this plane with a 40FP and moosecan. I was flying it in 20mph gusting up to 30mph. At times the wind you blow me backwards. but we were flying harriers backwards. I never thought I would fly in wind like yesturday. Now I know that I can fly the Qhor in just about any wind.

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