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Ziroli 70" P-47 progress pics for those that may b... - 3/10/2003 7:56:28 AM   
G.F. Reid



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Status: offline 		Just to show that I'm actually working on it guys...and even making some progress!


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Ziroli 70" P-47 progress pics for those that may b... - 3/10/2003 8:23:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looking good Greg. What did you put in the nose? Pete

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JUG - 3/10/2003 8:31:50 AM   
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Status: offline 		Greg, Did you paint the fiberglassed airframe with red spot putty thinned with acetone? I do the same on my birds, it really helps to smooth the airframe out before primer.
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Ziroli 70" P-47 progress pics for those that may b... - 3/10/2003 8:56:03 AM   
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Status: offline 		Rocketman, I forgot to mention that this is the 70" version so I went with Ziroli's recommended Q-35. 70" sounds small but on a P-47, it's fairly substantial.

Evan, Sort of. I actually put it on straight from the tube and scraped it off with the plastic bondo spreader, leaving the putty in the weave and any minor low spots. I didn't know about thinning it. I think that would have been easier as you really have to work fast with the spatula because it dries so quickly. It does sand easily though and leaves a very smooth surface.
As soon as I get a couple surface details added like the waste gates and intercooler doors, I'll be ready prime it.

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Ziroli 70" P-47 progress pics for those that may b... - 3/10/2003 9:54:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Good job, I can't wait to get started on mine! Still waiting on the wood.... Keep posting pics, I want to see Oregon's Britannia spring to life.

What are using to build the waste gates and intercooler doors?

Also, what cowling are you using? Your's looks different than the one from Ziroli, which does not include the extra baffle inside, or did you add it?

Cal

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Ziroli 70" P-47 progress pics for those that may b... - 3/10/2003 3:56:27 PM   
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Status: offline 		This is one of the original Ziroli cowls made from hard, thick plastic. When I bought my plans back in the early 90's, Nick showed a photo of the canopy and cowl and this is the cowl. I think it's blow molded or something. At some point, he switched to fiberglass but I don't know why he did away with the internal baffle. I got mine third hand from Chad Veich a good while ago. That explains the glazing putty. It had a hole cut in the side to clear a glow engine.

I need to contact Chad to see if he's still going to vacuform the waste gates and intercooler doors. If he's going to be busy for a while, I've got some very thin aluminum I picked up yesterday from the builders supply that I think will be perfect. It's thin enough to cut with scissors but fairly stiff. Plus it was only 33 cents for a sheet about 5x8". I picked up 4 or 5 just to play around with.

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P-47 - 3/10/2003 7:56:18 PM   
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Status: offline 		Looking Good Greg you have a paint scheme figured out for it yet or just gonna come up with a standard Jug scheme?

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Ziroli 70" P-47 progress pics for those that may b... - 3/10/2003 8:33:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nice Jug Greg, Cant wait to see the finished product! You are a glassing fool! te he Im wantin a jug now ..wth all the nice ones around. stay on it now!
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Ziroli 70" P-47 progress pics for those that may b... - 3/10/2003 8:50:57 PM   
G.F. Reid



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Joe, I'm doing Oregon's Brittania/Happy Warrior. This was Hub Zempke's personal plane and was later Harold Comstock's mount. Very few pics of it around but I did find this photo of a plastic modeler's portrayal of it

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jug - 3/10/2003 8:53:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Cool Greg nice to see a scheme other than that boring od green. those are some different camo colors too. looks like it will turn out to be a nice looking plane when done

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Ziroli 70" P-47 progress pics for those that may b... - 3/10/2003 9:14:09 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, I'm going with RAF colors to try to match that camo scheme. I got the right RAF FS numbers from Cal, aka RCnutKC who posted further up the thread. Not exactly the colors that this modeler used but pretty close to what I think was probably used on the original. Something a little different and not so demanding as making a convincing natural metal finish....although I do like the nm finishes.

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metal finish - 3/10/2003 10:49:22 PM   
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Status: offline 		Well Greg I have seen some excellent metal finishes by using aluminum paste and rubbing and buffing it on. since there is real aluminum used in the makeing it is very convincing. it is really easy to do but the main thing you have to remember is that you need to put a clear coat on it when done or it will oxidize.

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Ziroli 70" P-47 progress pics for those that may b... - 3/10/2003 11:57:32 PM   
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I am also waiting on wood, ordered from Precision Cuts about three weeks ago. Who did you order your's from?

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Ziroli 70" P-47 progress pics for those that may b... - 3/11/2003 12:08:28 AM   
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Status: offline 		Joe, it's not the duplication of the metal finish that I'm so worried about. What concerns me more is how that type of finish really brings out the imperfections in the structure. It's in that area that I'm not at all convinced that I've done the requisite foundation work for a quality high reflective finish.
Translation; I'm afraid it'll show up all my mistakes.

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imperfections - 3/11/2003 12:14:18 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well Greg the flight metal type stuff will really show up imperfections as they will magnify on the material as it is in a sheet form whereas the alum paste is just like paint it will hide some flaws. My opinion is also that you show me 1 Warbird that had a perfect skin on it with no starved horse look or no indentions or dings and I will be your slave for life. It just didnt happen. they were put through pure hell and they were rushed out of the factories. look at som of the walkaround sites now a lot of them planes are restored usually with new skins etc and they never rush their work and not 1 of them has a skin that isnt loaded with flaws. I know we all want to be perfectionists with our models but in reality if I was a scale judge I would downgrade for a perfect finish as there was no plane that had one. the other reason is just cause im an ahole lololol

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