RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review  
View related threads: (in this forum | in all forums)

Tower Hobbies
Enter up to 4 keywords or Tower stock numbers
Logged in as Guest



Users viewing this topic: none
  Printable Version
       


JR NES703 Low Profile Retract Servo
Seller:  Erick Royer
Details:   $75.00   |  9/2/2008   |  Classified Ad
We will rotate YOUR AD in this spot if you select "Forum Featured" when placing or editing your ad!

All Forums >> Radios, Batteries, Clubhouse and more >> RC Radios, Transmitters, Receivers, Servos, gyros >> RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review
Page: <<   < prev  1 [2] 3 4 5 6   next >   >>  

Login
Message << Older Topic   Newer Topic >>
RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/21/2007 3:43:12 PM   
Kevvy


 

Posts: 7
Joined: 1/20/2004
From: plymouth, UNITED KINGDOM
Status: offline
Can you tell me when the Futaba 7C 7-Channel 2.4GHz transmitter will be available?
http://2.4gigahertz.com/systems/futk7000.html
Thanks
Kevvy.

(in reply to Don J)
       Post #: 26

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/21/2007 6:03:35 PM   
bgold


 

Posts: 353
Joined: 2/9/2004
From: Portland, OR, USA
Status: offline
I have a DX-7 and have been disappointed in the programing ability or lack there of. I have a XPS Futaba combo pack comming to use with my 9C. Incidently something I didn't expect but I pick up the fact that I have no antenna extended on my DX-7 transmitter while flying, makes me nervous, I want to pull something out. Prime example of old dog new trick.

(in reply to Kevvy)
       Post #: 27

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/21/2007 7:46:33 PM   
flyingfever


 

Posts: 77
Joined: 9/22/2002
From: Troutman, NC, USA
Status: offline
Ed:

Futaba is all I've ever owned, and I was planning to stay with Futaba while upgrading to at least a six channel system.

My Skysport 4 has served me well in my PT40 and EasySport, but I feel I need more sophistication, (dual rates, etc.) as I progress to the SIG FourStar 40.

2.4 Ghz, with no more frequency pin would be a nice bonus, but I don't want to move too quickly and regret it later.

Maybe I'll make the move later this year.

Fever

(in reply to aeajr)
       Post #: 28

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/21/2007 8:44:54 PM   
starzak



Posts: 1699
Joined: 12/5/2001
From: Chacotoma, NM, USA
Status: online
I have always owned low end Futaba radios, and have always looked with some envy at JR's superior packaging, and ease of programming. Wanting to upgrade for awhile, when Spektrum hit the market, the timing was right. Yes, I knew about Futaba and XPS, but I decided to put my money with the company that already had the size, and reputation for standing behind their product.

While all 5 of my DX-7 / AR 7000 equipped giant scalies are presently performing flawlessly, "as advertised", I know that the Spektrum / JR / Horizon organization will be there to provide A1 service if I ever need it. But over the last 7 months of constant operation, no service has ever been needed. SPEKTRUM is the best system that I have ever flown with, and you won't find a happier customer anywhere.


> Jim

< Message edited by GeeBeeJim -- 7/21/2007 9:04:42 PM >

(in reply to flyingfever)
       Post #: 29

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/21/2007 9:01:31 PM   
tande


 

Posts: 558
Joined: 12/23/2003
From: Millington, MI, USA
Status: offline
quote:

I have a DX-7 and have been disappointed in the programing ability or lack there of.


Same here!---Sold my DX-7---Love my XPS 9C combo!---

(in reply to bgold)
       Post #: 30

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/21/2007 9:23:34 PM   
cahusker


 

Posts: 38
Joined: 6/1/2002
From: Bloomington, IN, USA
Status: online

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kevvy

Can you tell me when the Futaba 7C 7-Channel 2.4GHz transmitter will be available?
http://2.4gigahertz.com/systems/futk7000.html
Thanks
Kevvy.

Tower's web site has it listed as "order pending" so that could mean anything from a few days to a few months. They usually say early something (month) or late something if they have a more specific date.

(in reply to Kevvy)
       Post #: 31

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/22/2007 12:46:35 AM   
bruce88123


 

Posts: 10447
Joined: 11/26/2004
From: Memphis, TN, USA
Status: offline

quote:

ORIGINAL: Kevvy

Can you tell me when the Futaba 7C 7-Channel 2.4GHz transmitter will be available?
http://2.4gigahertz.com/systems/futk7000.html
Thanks
Kevvy.

BAX, the Futaba rep, posted in the Futaba forum that delivery is CURRENTLY expected in Mid-Autumn. Whatever that translates to.
http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=6016025

_____________________________

3-D is for Monster Movies

(in reply to Kevvy)
       Post #: 32

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/22/2007 6:28:07 PM   
aeajr



Posts: 5495
Joined: 1/14/2003
From: Long Island, NY, USA
Status: offline
quote:

ORIGINAL: flyingfever

Ed:

Futaba is all I've ever owned, and I was planning to stay with Futaba while upgrading to at least a six channel system.

My Skysport 4 has served me well in my PT40 and EasySport, but I feel I need more sophistication, (dual rates, etc.) as I progress to the SIG FourStar 40.

2.4 Ghz, with no more frequency pin would be a nice bonus, but I don't want to move too quickly and regret it later.

Maybe I'll make the move later this year.

Fever


Well, the Futaba 6EX 2.4 GHz would be a big upgrade from the Skysport 4 and would give you dual rates, model memories, flapperons and other things you don't have on the Sky Sport.

Just becasue some of us consider this an entry level transmitter with relatively few features only means that our needs are greater than what this system offers. I fly full house gliders, some that need up to 9 channels. Gliders benefit from all kinds of mixes and the like. But the 6EX is still fine for someone who does not need all that stuff. The 72 MHz version, the 6EXAS appears to be quite popular and people seem to like it fine. I have often recommended it as a first computer radio.

If you want to move now and it meets your needs, I see no reason to hesitate. Reports are that it works well in the context of what it is claimed to do. That is all I ever ask of a manufacturer. Make your claims and live up to them. I would say Futaba has done that.

Whether it meets my needs or someone else's needs should not be your deciding factor, only that it meets yours. For flying typical 4 channel glow planes it seems to have everything you would need. If you want to add flaps and landing gear, you have it all. Or if you want to set your aileron servos up on separate channels as flapperons, bingo, you got it. And you can still have landing gear control.

Look at the list of features.

Standard Programming Features:

Trainer function-transmitter can be master or student, compatible
with other Futaba systems

Six model memory
Servo reversing
End point adjustment
Airplane or heli programming
Dual Rate /Exponential for ailerons, rudder and elevator
Fail Safe-safety throttle setting in case of transmitter signal
loss
Battery Fail Safe-safety throttle setting in case of signal loss
Stick Mode-Choose from Mode 1-Mode-4
Changeable Throttle Stick-ratchet for airplanes or smooth for helis
Adjustable Stick Length

Airplane Features;
Programmable Mixing (1 & 2) any two channels can be combined
Pre-Programmed Throttle Cut for safely shutting off engine
Wing mixing for flaperon, flap trim, V-tail and elevon

Helicopter Functions;
Three swashplate types
Five-Point Normal and Idle Up Throttle/Pitch Curves
Revo, Gyro and Swash to Throttle mixing
Swash AFR Adjustable Function Rate for use w/ 3S or 3E swash types

INCLUDES: Futaba 6EX Transmitter
NT8F600B 9.6V 600mAh Transmitter Battery, FUTM1440
FBC-19B(4) Battery Charger, FUTM1830
R606FS Receiver, FUTL7635
Switch Harness-J Style Connector, FUTM4350
Neck Strap


Compared to a Skysport 4, this is a monster powerful system from a top maker in the industry. Seems like a low risk decision to me.


< Message edited by aeajr -- 7/22/2007 6:32:38 PM >


_____________________________

Clear Skies and Safe Flying!
Ed Anderson
Moderator
Park Pilot Program Partner

(in reply to flyingfever)
       Post #: 33

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/22/2007 7:43:21 PM   
cjshaker


 

Posts: 135
Joined: 6/29/2006
From: Bend, OR, USA
Status: offline
I'd have to agree that the Futaba 6EX 2.4 GHz works well. I used it in an e-flite C-182 foam model, and the radio
worked great for that. Glitch free, and no frequency worries. If the receiver worked with all other FAAST radios,
I'd be very happy with the receivers.

I do miss the timer and heft of my Super 9C, however. The 6EX feels much lighter, and I'm used to having the
timers in my Super 9C to limit my runs.

Chris Shaker

(in reply to aeajr)
       Post #: 34

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/23/2007 7:40:39 AM   
m898


 

Posts: 32
Joined: 4/28/2007
From: Perth, AUSTRALIA
Status: offline
Hi

Does anyone know where i can buy a Spektrum module for my 14MZ.
I have been waiting for one from Spektrum, XPS and Futaba for months now !


(in reply to flyingfever)
       Post #: 35

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/23/2007 8:56:35 AM   
cjshaker


 

Posts: 135
Joined: 6/29/2006
From: Bend, OR, USA
Status: offline
More questions and some info about 2.4 Ghz modules:

Regarding the XPS module for the Futaba Super 9C, do you use the transmitter in PCM or FM mode?
Ie - do you get to program the fail safe settings for the XPS system through the transmitter as if
you were using PCM??? I gather from this thread that you actually program failsafe settings
through the receiver.

http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=716587


It appears that you operate the Super 9C in FM (ppm) mode when using the Spektrum module for
the Super 9C. That would mean that the fail safe settings in my transmitter are not available for the
Spektrum system. Search for "Why do I only get 9 channels with JR and 8 Channels with the Futaba
Compatible Modules when the transmitter I´m using has 10, 12 or 14 channels?".

http://www.spektrumrc.com/DSM/FAQ.aspx

The same FAQ says that you do *not* get the 'model match' feature with the Spektrum modules.
One of my buddies who is upgrading to the X9303 2.4 hz JR Spektrum radio thinks that feature is
worth the price of admission to Spektrum by itself. He's selling his Futaba Super 9C, and his DX7
and converting all of his airplanes over to Spektrum. He's been using the DX7 in his 50cc gasser
aerobat, with great success. So, I probably will *not* consider a Spektrum module for my
Super 9C. If I go Spektrum, I'd want 'model match', too.

Also, that same FAQ talks about why the native Spektrum radios have less latency than the modules
do.

Thank you,
Chris Shaker


< Message edited by cjshaker -- 7/23/2007 9:11:31 AM >

(in reply to aeajr)
       Post #: 36

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/23/2007 10:24:26 AM   
tande


 

Posts: 558
Joined: 12/23/2003
From: Millington, MI, USA
Status: offline
quote:

#1--do you get to program the fail safe settings for the XPS system through the transmitter as if
you were using PCM???
quote:

#2--I gather from this thread that you actually program failsafe settings
through the receiver.


#1-no
#2-yes

< Message edited by tande -- 7/23/2007 10:26:16 AM >

(in reply to cjshaker)
       Post #: 37

RE: 2.4 GHz - A Broad Market Review - 7/25/2007 12:34:13 AM   
nordqk


 

Posts: 3
Joined: 6/17/2006
From: gold canyon, AZ, USA
Status: offline
You mention the following concern with available channels:

"Spektrum's channel management approach limits their system to 40 simultaneous users. While this number seems large compared to typical pilot population at the field, as 2.4 GHz becomes the standard and frequency control starts to go away, will Spektrum users be locked out at large events? While you might only have 5 Spektrum pilots in the air at one time, you could easily have more than 40 Spektrum users at an event. If you have 40 Spektrum based transmitters turned on in the pits, will you be locked out from flying even as you approach the line? Again, we can expect that many pilots will be on other standards, but will this become an issue in the future? It is something to consider if you frequent large events. "

I believe that impounding 2.4 GHz radios will have to be performed at events with large number of pilots just so they can be sure a good number of channels are available for those flying and in the line up. My son had a 28% Extra 300 with a DX7 go down at an IMAC event two weekends ago. I know one of the reasons was the antenna on the transmitter was in the straight out position (minimal line-of-sight signal strength) and not at a 90 bend as it should have been. In our home field we had no problems with the straight out position but the number of 2.4GHz users is very low and there is really no noise at that frequency in the area so we could get away with a little noise on the channels. However, at the IMAC event, there were many planes, >50 pilots. I didn't poll to find out how many were 2.4 GHz (I did see many "stubby" antennas, however) and I'm not suggesting that all 80 channels were occupied but the lowered signal strength of the antenna position combined with the inc