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Phase 3 EF - 16 - 8/12/2007 12:15:39 AM   
quilly101


 

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 8/22/2007 3:17:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		i just brought the kit it looks like a great flyer. i havent assembled mine yet but it looks like a good begginers edf

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 8/24/2007 9:17:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		Yup, that sums it up pretty well, it is good for a beginner, I had never flown one before, It is pretty docile on the low rates, but you do have to keep it moving! Also, pay attention to it 'cause it does shift some when you bring it down out of a climb!

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 9/2/2007 9:07:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		me and my dad just finished it. insestead of putting the supplied decals we are going to spray paint it using styro military grey colour and in black lettering put USAF on. and we use bamboo wooden spikey things at the end of the main wing and the vertical fin. in real life i think they are smoke streamers or sidewinder missiles. and i love you video guilly!

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 9/17/2007 5:11:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hey guys - Im getting ready to order this awesome plane! Does anyone have specs on the motor and fan unit it uses? I want to build the model in real flight but need some more details on the motor/fan...

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 9/19/2007 2:37:39 AM   
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Status: offline 		Has anyone tried a 4 cell Lipo with this jet set up stock? If so how did it handle it?


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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 9/23/2007 4:44:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		I wouldn't advise using 4s with the stock motor.I know others have tried some worked a few runs but all have gone up in smoke or melted fan housing and burned the motor. A successful 4s set up is jet screamer motor with a 3 or 5 blade alfa fan or the sf fan supplied with this kit. The jet screamer is a direct fit into the sf fan available at hobby lobby. Using the alfa fan with the five blades expect this f-16 to go well over 100mph and unlimited vertical also need a 20 to 30c lipo able to handle about 30amps draw 2000mah to 2200mah should work fine. Oh one other thing close off the cheater holes on the sides of the plane. It will sound more like a turbine(real jet) ......Tim

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 9/23/2007 1:19:08 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great advice, thanks for saving me a motor!


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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 9/23/2007 4:29:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		I just flew mine yesterday. Extremely fast for a park flyer. To clean up air flow to the fan, I used a yogurt cup cut to shape to ramp air into the fan unit smoother. Channeled the foam to sink the wires/esc into the foam, then put packing taped over the wires to have minimal disturbance to airflow. Also sanded the front intake opening larger and put a glass cap on it instead of the large radius vac form cap they give you.

Extended the clear tail cone to end of "scale" black tail cone using packing tape.

I may modify the fuse LE strakes and make them sharper.

Assembled it 90% with 3M bodyless tape and repainted it greys. Batt, thunder power 3s, 15C, 11.1V, 2100ma. 19.2 oz. flying. Will add missels next. I'll tape off the cheaters and try it.. Thanks

A great part of ducted fan performance comes from a good power unit, but in partner with great airflow from entry to exit.

Not bad for around $200.

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 9/24/2007 5:07:22 AM   
Turn n Burn


 

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Status: offline 		Just did a doppler reading taken from video on an phase 3 f-16. ran a week ago 131.26mph claims it was stock set up with 4s 2100tp extremes. but motor is burnt now..........Tim

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 9/24/2007 2:57:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mine was clocked at 80 - 82 mph consistently with stock set up using Thunder Power 3S.

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 9/29/2007 12:18:13 AM   
Newmanator


 

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Status: offline 		Hi there,

I just built mine stock and I am planning on building another one just for the fun of it. I want to follow up with you on your comment regarding the VASA Fan and the Jet screamer motor for a hopup. What Vasa fan and Motor are you saying is the best setup?

Thanks in advance!

Newman

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 10/1/2007 1:23:11 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello Newman, Its the Alfa fan model#alf 51031 I believe make sure you get the optional 3mm aluminum derill for rotor and the JSwith the adapter. Hope this helps............Tim http://www.rcgroups.com/forums/showthread.php?t=706277
new f-16 at hobby people .net - RC Groups,,,,,,, By the way great looking F-16. this thread i posted is just over 90 days old with almost 1100 replies. Information ......Oh Yeah

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 10/3/2007 9:04:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		Here's mine with a few mod's. Took off the paper covering on wings and the did the whole jet in 1/2 oz glass with water based polyurethane it comes in at 20 oz without battery. Have 2-6 inch C/F rods in each wing going into the fuselage. Tail rods were covered with 1/8 lite ply and a rudder was added. I also have the wings setup for aileron's so if I want to add 2 more servo's down the road. Running the XF fan with the 5100 Kv 8XL motor on 4/S 2200 25C Air Thunder pack 40 amp ESC and 5/6v 3A UBEC. I am pulling about 30 amp's with 430+ watts and top speed is well over 100+mph. But now that I have about 50 or so flights on it it's getting too slow for me. I am thinking of re-powering it with a 480 fan with a 700 watt 2W-20 motor and 5/S pack. Damm!!!!! the need for speed has got me once more
Keep em flying
raido56/Herb

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 10/15/2007 12:07:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		Just maidened my plane Sunday, flies GREAT! It's my first jet and it flies on rails and feels locked in, and FAST too! Only problem is when I came in for a nose up landing, the front end of the elevators struck the ground and ripped off, but I glued them back and it's all good. I'm also afraid that I'm overloading the cheap, Parkzone Typhoon battery I'm using, it's max discharge rate is 12C (27 Amps), it was pretty warm when I was done flying but then again I never did drill that hole in the cockpit like the instructions said, I'll be sure to do that.

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 10/15/2007 12:49:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Also what servos are you guys using, I'm using HS-55s.

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RE: Phase 3 EF - 16 - 10/17/2007 7:50:41 AM