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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/21/2007 10:35:13 AM

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i sent it back because it was not a quality product. it leaked gas around the reed block even after i took it apart and resealed it. the mounting surface was off by a little more than a 1/16 of an inch where the halves of the block meet. the muffler material is so soft that they collapse when you tighten the bolt's up. one of the spark plugs did not seal properly in the head and leaked burnt gas and oil down the cylinder head and off the bottom.

one time i counted and it took 81 flips to get it to start and it was this way every time i tried to crank it. i was running it on 32:1 pennzoil aircooled oil. i think that they could be good engines but the quality control needs to be tightened up on them. i just didn't have the confidence in it to use it in my new plane. and maybe i just got one that slipped through. it was turning a 26a vess at 5700 rpm's. i have a 95cc fpe that i know will last that turns the same prop at 6100 and weighs about half a pound less with much better quality.

WOW sorry to hear that, I never tought these China engines would be so low quality, Mabye with time they will get it correct, but I dought it if they are leting engines like the one you discribed be sold.

Steve who was it that you bought the engine from?

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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 2:45:30 AM

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WIFPWCF Can i have you MSN to chat about this engine?

hi sp i will pm it to you ok sorry i took awhile to get back to ya but i had a airshow to fly at.
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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 2:52:12 AM

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hi alfonso is a drop shipper for these motors he does not own the company that makes them..they are all hh brand motors,

Glen

What do you base that on? I've dealt with him on a couple occasions, I had one of the original 100 engines, he replaced it with the new version for free, that doesn't sound like a drop shipper's responds to a engine that wasn't 100%. I don't know if he owns the company, but it seems that he has some connection with it and wants it to prosper.

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The key in the hub was to small so it went out of timming,

I've not seen that problem.

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the carbys dont sit flush on the manifold,

Yes, I found that. When I get the engine I open them up, that's a easy fix I 400 grit paper on a sheet of glass and it takes 30 seconds to fix, or you could just use some RTV. Saving half on the engine you have to do a little clean up. From 3W this would be unacceptable, but because I open the engines to check them out anyway it's not a problem.

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26x10 5300rpm

I get 6000~6200rpm using a Xoar 26x10, that's probably strong a 80cc, but I'm happy with mine new ones. I have two of his 50cc twins, 100cc twins, and a 50cc single, the 50cc Twin is a jewel of and engine, I like it the best. The twins should really be push in the scale market more, but some of use poor guys like having the choice of a inexpensive twin 100.

ok the drop shipper part is a fact

i looked into it the grpro motors are hh brand,,if you get your instuction book pull the sticker of it & it will reveil the maker of the motor,im one that wonts these motors to work as i fly low & slow which means dead planes 2 often.

the hub problem has been sorted out but my first motor had this problem,you should not have to sand anything even if there a cheap motor,i delt with alfy & yes he got a new motor to me fast & i comend him for that but i wasent going to sell motor that were going to be a big problem
regards glen

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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 3:07:02 AM

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i bought it from slyvian on ebay.$560.00 was a good price but not if it doesn't perform as it is advertised. i doubt it would ever hit 6000 rpm's with a 26" prop let alone a 28" prop as advertised. like i said they could be a good engine but there are to many things slipping through. i wonder if he is selling seconds or rejects from gr pro? i am assuming that is where he is getting them from but i don't know.

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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 3:13:00 AM

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ok guys i have done my home work on these motor as i have freinds in australia that imports alot of china stuff,
1st these motors are dzy 100 & they painted the motors blue to sell under the name hh grpro lspro next we will see a ghtre pro

,,i would like to see some truth come out from the sellers of these motors as we have the right to no where there from,,but no they wont beacuse they like saying this is a copy thats a copy,I for one would like to see these motors become reliable for us to enjoy.If we could be convinced where there made im sure it will only help the sellers of these motors.It is like the green models factory they make hempel,radio wave,aus star,evergreen to name a few arf planes.
cheers glen

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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 3:23:15 AM

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It's nice of who ever makes them to cast GRpro into the new cases for Alfonso the dropshipper.

Show me your case with HH cast in it. Enough said....

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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 3:28:08 AM

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That's the 50 not the 100 isn't it ?????

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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 3:30:42 AM

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Yes, my 100cc is about 7months old, no name on them.

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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 3:32:46 AM

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It's nice of who ever makes them to cast GRpro into the new cases for Alfonso the dropshipper. Show me your case with HH cast in it. Enough said....

mine dont have that on it i just looked so the new ones are grpro not the old ones

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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 3:35:21 AM

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Yes, I think Alfonse is learning about marketing and brand names.

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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 3:45:39 AM

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Yes, I think Alfonse is learning about marketing and brand names.

fair dinkem thats good,,he has a guy selling them in oz lets wait & see how they go..if they go good ill set another plane up with one,,i was stung by the first ccrc motors now these as i said ihope they get better
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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 8:48:32 AM

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I'm going to comment here also.
These are not DZY engines, nor are they copies of a DZY engine. I know, I have one and it's a lovely engine. It runs a 26X10 MenzS at 6700Rpm out the box no leaks no problems.
As for Alfonso's engines, they are nicely made and of good quality, I have not run any nor do I own any. I have however spoken to the man, and met him on the Beijing Model Expo (3rd-6thOct) and had a very good look at these engines. The GRpro engines are marked as such, and if it dose not say Grpro, then it's not GRpro.

Grpro are the engines that Larry Imports, and sells as LSpro and I would not trust anything else.
As for the comment that Mitsu made......There are some very very good Chinese engines on the market. He mentioned the GS range of engines as the GS 65. I have 2 of these 65cc engines, and although not as powerful as the new reed induction engines, they run, and that’s all they do, and do it well. The 45cc they make also, 7100RPM out the box on a 21X8 MenzS...Not bad.

I for one, would not run a HH or SV engine that I don't know where it comes from?
attached find pictures of the engines at GRpro's stand of the Beijing Model Expo.

MY 0.02
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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 1:57:22 PM

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I'm going to comment here also.
These are not DZY engines, nor are they copies of a DZY engine. I know, I have one and it's a lovely engine. It runs a 26X10 MenzS at 6700Rpm out the box no leaks no problems.
As for Alfonso's engines, they are nicely made and of good quality, I have not run any nor do I own any. I have however spoken to the man, and met him on the Beijing Model Expo (3rd-6thOct) and had a very good look at these engines. The GRpro engines are marked as such, and if it dose not say Grpro, then it's not GRpro.

Grpro are the engines that Larry Imports, and sells as LSpro and I would not trust anything else.
As for the comment that Mitsu made......There are some very very good Chinese engines on the market. He mentioned the GS range of engines as the GS 65. I have 2 of these 65cc engines, and although not as powerful as the new reed induction engines, they run, and that’s all they do, and do it well. The 45cc they make also, 7100RPM out the box on a 21X8 MenzS...Not bad.

I for one, would not run a HH or SV engine that I don't know where it comes from?
attached find pictures of the engines at GRpro's stand of the Beijing Model Expo.

MY 0.02
Regards
Andreas

driesbabe,
Thanks for the clarification, on the GR PRO ENINES Like Soarrich says how can the LS PRO LINE be copies when we have been selling these engines for a year before they started and ours have the NAME on the crankcase. The persons that talk from a position of not knowing, or owning my engines keep there coments to yourself. YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE!!!!!!! People want to fly A
reasonable priced engine, and not everyone WANTS TO 3D.

mistydee0
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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 2:56:26 PM

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My flying buddy and I have bought, flown and tested GRPro engines from our friend Venon of CK Pro engines in Greenville, MS. These are quality engines that have been imported here for over a year and long before HH and SV knockoffs started to show up. wifpwcf claiming Alfonso is a drop shipper is ridiculous! Perhaps he is confusing him with Peakmodel of New Zealand, which is most definitely a drop shipper, as I've bought from them and all their stuff ships straight from China or Hong Kong .. but not New Zealand. Alfonso is the manufacturer behind the GRPro line of engines, and when he tells you the others are cheap copies of his design you should pay attention. You don't see official reps of SV or HH denying that fact, .. do you?

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RE: HH100T 100cc twin Review - 10/23/2007 3:06:00 PM

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Look closely at the picture of the 100cc twin that I posted, (the last picture in the series) and you will see Alfonso there. He is most definately the owner of the GRpro factory.
And I have allot of poof to go around, but thats for another day.

I just don't get it.......

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