Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread

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BaldEagel -> Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/14/2007 1:34:51 PM)
It has arrived and I have decided to do a build thread, the covers supplied for the whole aircraft was a pleasent supprise, quality looks good, especially for the price I got it at, which was 499EU with free postage, not tax added at source and I did not get a tax bill when it was delivered, please don't snitch on me. First order of buisness was to ensure the engine I wanted to use fitted, I am using an MVVS 45 Mag with Isolation mounts, the front of the attached half cowl has to opened up to allow fitting of the engine, this was done with a hole cutter after cutting out a support for the drill arbour. More later. Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/14/2007 3:42:58 PM)
Further photo's to show the installation of the Iso mount, one pic shows the engine on the mount in position and the small silver location pegs in position, the other shows the supplied engine spacers that jus happen to fit the hole for the rubber isolaion mount in postion to mark the centre of the hole needed. Mike

codiddley -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/14/2007 3:59:55 PM)
Very nice! Are you going to baffle the engine? Looks like it's in a hard place to keep cool. Nice airframe! I wish I had the 100cc version!

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/14/2007 4:07:52 PM)
Your right, the cowl completly covers the engine, the only thing sticking out will be the spark plug, which is going to look very good, I plan on using a cannister as well so keeping everything enclosed inside the cowl, baffling will be from the two side outlets at the front to the cylinder head, I have not given this a great amount of thought as yet, but have done it before with success. I will probably put NACA scoops on the bottom of the fus to suck hot air out. Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/14/2007 4:38:56 PM)
Just weighed everything as below. Fus..............1355grm Rt Wing..........551 Lft Wing.........547 Lft Stab.........155 Rt Stab..........165 Rudd...............88 Stab tube........42 Wing tube......169 U/C pair.........265 Fus weight includes the canopy frame and cowl Total weight 3337grms divide by 28 and 16 = 7.45lb, lots of potential to save weight on the Undercarridge, wing and stab tube as they are very substantial aluiminimum. Should come out at under 7Kg's hopefully 6.5Kg, this will be interesting. Mike

jaycey -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/14/2007 9:32:04 PM)
Ive just finished building my Edge, Ive Put a DA50 in mine with a 3W slimline can, jr 8411's on elevators and ailerons and a 8511 on rudder, is come out at around 14lbs. Was your firewall already installed? mine wasnt as the kit is designed around an electric setup and the metal disk you have installed on the front of yours was supposed to be the electric motor mount? Ile get some pics of mine together. Jason

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/15/2007 11:27:07 AM)
Jason The firewall was already installed, with down and side thrust aligned, Metal disc? don't understand sorry. Mine will have Hitec 5955's all around, and I am istalling an MTW 75 cannister. I understand there is a longevity problem with the JR servo gears have you had any problems yet? At 14lb yours if going to be a rocket ship that's for sure. Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/15/2007 2:41:13 PM)
Bit more done today, engine installtion is nearing completion, the only problem is the manifold needed to get the cannister into the centre of the fus, also the drop needs to be 1/2" and all I have are 1" 2" and a no drop, I have asked Pe Rievers if he can make one up for me with a tighter bend to clear the cowl fixing as well, will report back when I have done more. Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/15/2007 4:24:56 PM)
Elevator servo's in, by using socket head servo screws it was a simple job as they fit on the allen key very tightly, can't say that the wing will be as simple as its much further inside, and will require an allen key fitted into a dowel or some such to extend it. I had to extend the servo arm opening to allow the arm to rotate into position as I had fitted them first, this seemed the logical thing to do. Mike

jaycey -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/15/2007 4:55:51 PM)
Cant comment on the jr servo gears yet as they havnt been tested to any extent. There are some slight differences between the X Treme composite version of this plane and the one they supply to Graupner, which is the one ive got. The undercarriage supplied with mine is a swept back glass/carbon job, the firewall wasnt installed. Graupner supply an upgraded hardware pack with theirs which is nice. Aeileron servo installation is a pain! heres some pics....

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/15/2007 5:30:42 PM)
"Total weight 3337grms divide by 28 and 16 = 7.45lb, lots of potential to save weight on the Undercarridge, wing and stab tube as they are very substantial aluiminimum." Contary to my post above, I have just taken the UC out of the packing and its a laminate of Glass/Ply and Carbon sprayed in aluiminium metal flake paint, will have to see how this stands up. bit its very well made and flexable enough to take the grass strip I fly from, I hope LOL, no flying at the moment due to the Foot and Mouth outbreak in Southern England our Sheep field is closed for the time being. Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/17/2007 3:47:42 PM)
Deleated: Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/21/2007 11:37:36 PM)
WARNING There is a former missing from the plane and kit contents, this former fits at the rear of the canopy and stiffens the fus between the the rear wing fixing and the spar tube, it would be well to check and fit one if yours is missing. This has been verified by my supplier. Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/22/2007 2:23:57 PM)
Deceided I did not like the so called Phenolic horns supplied, can't work out what they are made of as Phenolic is the process of extrusion not the material, so I have made my own horns out of real carbon fibre, doubled up to allow the use of ball links. Mike

scaleMan -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/22/2007 7:46:52 PM)
thanks Mike, I for one am watching your build and enjoying it....

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/23/2007 3:44:07 PM)
Ok scaleman just for you. Pics show the new aileron horn blanks bolted together and shaped, next pic shows two of the horns bolted together, next the reinforcing plate in postion to mark and cut the additional horn hole. Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/23/2007 3:47:18 PM)
More pics, the first pic shows the original horn and my new one side by side in the two holes, next the reinforcing plate taped in position, I then carefully cut out the plate leaving the tape in position to protect the surface whilst applying glue and roughening the surface to accept the plate, next horns in position, waiting for the glue to set, so that I can make up a template of the final position to use on the other wing. Mike

scaleMan -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/23/2007 11:32:50 PM)
very nice job, Thanks for sharing Mike!

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/24/2007 9:38:30 AM)
I will keep going and posting whilst there is interest. The only must change items found so far are, the rudder geometry is totaly out if you use the supplied hardware, the rudder horn is in line with the hinge line and the cables do not cross inside the fus, therefore the servo arm does not have to rake forward to compensate, it would also help if the distance's between the cable connection points where the same width. Rudder hinge points, which would you use? 1/4" into the fin post or 1/2". Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/24/2007 12:02:48 PM)
Rudder horns completed and installed, two pics showing the template used to ensure each side of the wing and tail have the same horn geometry, I have also received the manifold from Pe Reivers at MVVS.nl and it fits perfectly, well done and thank you Pe. Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/29/2007 4:53:12 PM)
It was a bit fiddly getting the wing servo's in but I managed, using the same screws as I did on the elevator, makes a nice neat installation with no hatches, you can't see them under the wing on the ground anyway so perhaps it was a waste of time and effort, but I am pleased with the result. Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/29/2007 4:55:25 PM)
Thought I would show how I am going to decorate this bird, I know the pic shows an Extra, but Breitling don't sponcer and Edge, but its such a pretty scheme. Mike

pe reivers -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/29/2007 5:01:59 PM)
Nice building Mike. A thread like this is much more readable if not too many comments act as spacer . I am sure quite a few readers enjoy your thorough approach and sound ideas. Keep up the work.

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/30/2007 4:59:44 PM)
Thanks Pe your comments are appreciated. I am going to make the tank support removable so that I can get to the throttle and choke servo's if required, I will post pic's of this when I have more done. Mike

BaldEagel -> RE: Xtreme Composite Edge 540 build thread (8/31/2007 5:19:15 PM)
Rudder hinged as shown with the large Robart pin hinges, I think I have just enough movement. Mike

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