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*Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 8/20/2007 12:15:49 AM   
Zippi



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Status: offline 		I ran Airtronics for 12 years and never had a problem. I had changed to JR because Airtronics wasn't keeping up with everyone else and I could get a PCM radio much cheaper from other brand radios and with the new release of the 2.4 GHz, they were still lagging behind. Now I hear that Airtronics is working on the RD8000 radio for 2.4 GHz and may hear something in September about a release. Anyone else have any info about this ?

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GH* - 8/20/2007 2:35:31 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zippi

I ran Airtronics for 12 years and never had a problem. I had changed to JR because Airtronics wasn't keeping up with everyone else and I could get a PCM radio much cheaper from other brand radios and with the new release of the 2.4 GH, they were still lagging behind. Now I hear that Airtronics is working on the RD8000 radio for 2.4 GH and may hear something in September about a release. Anyone else have any info about this ?


I too had been using Airtronics radios for the 10 years that I've been flying. When I went to Toledo this year I was excited about talking to the Airtronics reps and finding out their plans for going to 2.4 Ghz. That excitement was quickly killed when I talked to them. When I asked when Airtronics would be coming out with a 2.4 Ghz radio for aircraft their answer was "at least a year away". That was a killer nail in their coffin in my book. During that same time I was given a chance to review the JR X9303 radio for RCU and I very quickly converted to a JR man. Since that review I have been steadily converting planes from Airtronics to JR, as I can afford to buy receivers.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GH* - 8/20/2007 3:17:01 AM   
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"As for 2.4g, the RD8000 is first. Prototype is in the works now. Real-world testing in the USA environment will begin Sept 4. As soon as we're convined it's 100%, we will put that one into production.

Soon to follow will then be a 9 channel 2.4g, a module/rx set for Stylus/older ATX, and then a competition level 12-14 channel.

Mike Greenshields "

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GH* - 8/20/2007 12:11:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		It looks like it's still going to be a while until the Airtronics RD8000 SS is going to be out. It's a good thing that they are coming out with the SS but it's just to late. They will loose a lot more customers by waiting so long.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GH* - 8/23/2007 6:37:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Indeed Sanwa is late to the game, but indeed they are now in it. New management at the parent company in Japan is fueling the fire. They are committed and aggressively pursuing R&D.

And while I feel your pain in the release time frame, it is there for a reason. This technology is complicated and new and we will NOT release a system until I am sure it works. We will test it first on the bench, then locally, then with our pilots across the country, and only then will we release it. The development schedule for Airtronics is accellerating and you'll see many new products from Airtronics. It isn't just one 2.4g system being developed, but many systems as well as all of the peripheral equipment including and expanded line of world-class servos.

Airtronics is committed to 2.4G and to new product development. But first and foremost, it is quality/reliability first.

If you have any questions or comments, feel free to contact me. You can pm me here or email if you wish.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GH* - 8/23/2007 12:13:10 PM   
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It's nice to see that Airtronics is coming on board with the new technology. For myself, I have already made a major investment in switching over to JR radios and probably will not make the change back. It's just to costly for me to make a change back and I'm satisfied when what I'm using for now. I wish the best for Airtronics and know the quality will be there as it has for the many years I used the product.



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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 8/23/2007 1:14:04 PM   
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What platform will Airtronics use for 2.4 Ghz. Are they using something similar to Spektrum's platform, or Futaba's, or XTR's, or something entirely different still?

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 8/23/2007 4:09:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		2.4g Spread Spectrum coding is by it's very nature proprietary. Since we are still in the prototyping stages I can't yet go into specific details. We'll release more information once testing is done and we get a little closer to a release date.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 9/5/2007 2:07:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		Is there anything new to report from Airtronics on the 2.4 GHz?

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 9/5/2007 3:27:17 AM   
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Status: offline 		The first hand-made RDS-8000 prototypes have been tested. They work. Testing so far has been encouraging and gone off without incident. We've ground tested them over 1500 feet ( I got tired of walking...this was a true field test and my helper who was holding the plane was so far away we had to communicate by mobile phone so he could tell me if the radio went out of range...but it didn't!).

In the air the plane was so far away I couldn't see it (was a 60 size electric plane with an 800 sq. in. wing so it was pretty easy to see) and still had control.

It has flown almost every day since we first tested in on August 27th and so far, so good.

Wide-spread contry-wide testing by Airtronics team members will begin Mid-September. Production will be set after that testing is finished. As I said before, we will not release the radio before it has been thoroughly tested.

Any other questions, please let me know.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 9/6/2007 11:50:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Are they Frequenzy hoppers like Futaba FASST?
Do they stay on a fixed channel like Spektrum?
Or do they use shared Channels, like XPS?

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 9/6/2007 8:15:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Obviously each engineer's approach to this technology is a little different. The radio we are testing currently is frequency hopping.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 9/13/2007 10:37:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		MikeGreenshields,

How are the RDS-8000 prototypes coming along. frequency hopping, that doen't sound good.


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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 9/13/2007 11:31:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Great to know Airtronics is getting into the game. I hope you are going to do this on a partner basis, rater than start up yet another standard.

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