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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/12/2008 1:44:21 PM

Charley

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Why?

TM

Why what?

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/12/2008 2:34:48 PM

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Why?

TM

Why what?

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I believe he is asking about: "If they are transmitting but there's a problem in the unique ID, that's different." The quote from the post.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/12/2008 2:53:26 PM

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I received an e-mail from Mike this morning instructing me to send this unit to him. I appreciate his quick response, considering he is out of the country today.

My diagnosis, and I could very well be wrong, is I have a dead Rx.

I will send it in today. Like Skip, I have had good results with Airtronics and Airtronics servcice over the past 25 years, but I am dismayed to open up a brand new radio, and brand new model, only to have to send it back. I do not subscribe to the theory that "stuff happens". That is a crutch to cover up poor QC. This is not a slam at Airtronics, as QC is non-existent in todays mfg processes.

If companies all had more customer oriented people like Mike, and more customers who expected better QC and held the companies to a higher QC standard, we would see many of these problems become nonexistent.

It does appear that Mike and Global are trying to rectify these problems, which they did not make, they inherited from Sanwa.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/12/2008 5:06:36 PM

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bruce88123

I believe he is asking about: "If they are transmitting but there's a problem in the unique ID, that's different." The quote from the post.

I understood, I think. As I'm sure you ken, ID problems affect every radio set out there if the ID on a crowded band is the norm. The radios must not only transmit and receive a descrete frequency, they must establish a "bind" that means the receiver will only react to commands from the transmitter it's locked on to thru the ID code.

Now, if the binding problem is ID code related we need to be wary, ALA Futaba. OTOH, if there was a problem with the RF link, well, "As long as my model is OK......"

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/12/2008 7:44:44 PM

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I received an e-mail from Mike this morning instructing me to send this unit to him. I appreciate his quick response, considering he is out of the country today.

My diagnosis, and I could very well be wrong, is I have a dead Rx.

I will send it in today. Like Skip, I have had good results with Airtronics and Airtronics servcice over the past 25 years, but I am dismayed to open up a brand new radio, and brand new model, only to have to send it back. I do not subscribe to the theory that "stuff happens". That is a crutch to cover up poor QC. This is not a slam at Airtronics, as QC is non-existent in todays mfg processes.

If companies all had more customer oriented people like Mike, and more customers who expected better QC and held the companies to a higher QC standard, we would see many of these problems become nonexistent.

It does appear that Mike and Global are trying to rectify these problems, which they did not make, they inherited from Sanwa.

QC is not non-existent in manufacturing today and stuff does happen. I'm in the manufacturing business and I can assure you that QC is alive and well. Once product is shipped and in transit a lot of things can happen and does. It's the way it is. In a perfect world everything would plug right in and work but it just doesn't happen.

Until there is evidence to the contrary, this is a non issue. Just because a RX fails on start up doesn't mean the world is coming to an end or that ATX is replicating Futaba issue. Rignt now this is a tempest in a teapot.

TM

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/12/2008 9:21:43 PM

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If QC is live and well, then Airt needs to tighten it up. The idea of QC is to prevent defective units getting out of the factory.
Doggone it, TM, quit being so combative. You are preaching to the choir. If we weren't largely AIRT guys 'n gals we wouldn't be reading this thread.

CR

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/12/2008 9:49:07 PM

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I have to agree with TM. There is no guarantee these didn't function properly when shipped. No guarantee that they did either, of course. It's not uncommon for things shook, rattled and/or dropped during shipping. The factory can't guarantee that the shipper doesn't damage something but they are offering a warranty. I used to work in QC MANY years ago and know that you can't control what the next person does. STUFF HAPPENS so there is a warranty period. Get over it, get your stuff fixed if needed and go fly.

Charlie - ya think none of them Moonies out of Kerrville didn't break between the factory and the point of delivery? They did.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/12/2008 11:16:16 PM

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I just want to see RCKENs review. pub

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/12/2008 11:27:52 PM

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I just want to see RCKENs review. pub

Me Too!!!

RCKEN... hows your review commin along?

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/12/2008 11:52:00 PM

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If QC is live and well, then Airt needs to tighten it up. The idea of QC is to prevent defective units getting out of the factory.
Doggone it, TM, quit being so combative. You are preaching to the choir. If we weren't largely AIRT guys 'n gals we wouldn't be reading this thread.

CR

Charley you're the one that started this with this remark; "Guys, I hate to say it, but it looks like there's a problem here and until it's fixed, I'd back away from this radio.". Talk about combative.

Just in case you haven't been in a manufacturing plant lately, let me update you on what QC is supposed to do. Quality control let's manufacturing and process engineers control the repeatability and reproduceability of the manufacturing process. Whether we are talking about machined parts, plastic injection molding or electronics manufacturing and assembly, QC doesn't guarantee that defective products won't reach the consumer only that they are held to very tight minimums. I just installed 4 of 10 new CNC lathes in a plant that make automotive tie rod ends. I've sold them 8 machines previously and all had automation on them so I've touched on the subject a time or two.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/13/2008 1:37:46 AM

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And I still want to see RCkens review, TmooreAtx & Charley Don't you want to see RCkens review? pub

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/13/2008 2:04:45 AM

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That would be great!

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/13/2008 2:43:05 AM

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If I could figure out how to get away from that "work" thing I gotta do 8-10 hours a day I could get it done a lot quicker!!!!!

It's coming along!

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/13/2008 4:10:03 AM

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If I could figure out how to get away from that "work" thing I gotta do 8-10 hours a day I could get it done a lot quicker!!!!!

It's coming along!

Ken

Just tell the company owner that you want time off (vacation). lol

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 2/13/2008 5:39:23 AM

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RCken, just put up your bosses name and phone no. I think we can get you some time off,maybe collect for 26wks too!!!!!! lol pub

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