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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 10/22/2009 3:36 AM

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Your original post said nothing about flaperons, is that what you are trying to do???

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 10/22/2009 7:32 AM

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Maybe you should call our tech advisor Jack, and let him walk you through some options.

For those customers with Airtronics technical and setup questions
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You can reach an Airtronics expert at 1-800-262-1178 Monday through
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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 10/22/2009 2:24 PM

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I don't know how far along you are in trying to get flaps or flaperons, but you must turn BASIC off to proceed with the programming.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 10/22/2009 5:14 PM

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No I'm not trying to do flaperons.
But if FLAPE (Flaperon) is Active and the flap servos are plugged into channel #6, the flap servos will move like ailerons if the aileron stick on trans is moved.

The electric sailplane I'm assembling (Cularis) has separate flaps and ailerons on each wing.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 10/22/2009 5:23 PM

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Mike,

I have talked to Jack yesterday. He was very helpful and suggested the flaps on retract channel.

PS. I have talked with Jack a few times over the past years since I've only used Sanwa/Airtronics radio since starting R/C in 1980. Have bought Championship Series 7, Vision, Infinity, Stylus, and now RDS 8000. I like Airtronics.

Is the 2.4 Ghz module for Stylus available yet?

thanks and regards,

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 10/22/2009 7:45 PM

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Sounds like you need to uses a y-harness to connect both aileron servos together then plug into the aileron channel. Use another y-harness to join the flap servos and plug that into the flap channel. You may have to get a servo reverser lead to make sure the aileron servos travel in the opposire direction.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 10/22/2009 9:32 PM

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yes I agree except reverser is on flaps

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 10/23/2009 1:38 AM

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Right. You don't need a servo reverser for y-harness connected aileron servos. Skeeter, don't forget that aileron servo arms point in opposite directions.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 10/25/2009 3:01 AM

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Mike Greenshields....it's nice to see people in your position involved with these forums. I've done alot of research on this radio and I want one!!! Do you know if hobbypeople or anyone else is going to have the 1tx with 2rx package ever again or anytime soon??

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/1/2009 1:50 PM

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Wow. Nice long thread. Its actually too long to go through to screen for the most up to date info on this radio. Somewhere in these 76 pages the radio was actually released.
I just came back to the hobby after a 7 year break so the 2.4 technology leap is new to me. And it looks awesome. After doing about 3 months of reading I have decided on buying the Airtronics RD8000. I will install it on a Tiger 60 with retracts. Later on I may add flaps. Right now I have a few questions. First, I wonder if anyone is still monotering this thread that CAN answer my questions. I sure hope there is.
Next, was the radio/2 reciever combo a limited release and not available now?
And....Which servos are compatible? Price is a concern. But I will not go cheap to save a buck if it means poor performance. I will need retract servos for mechanical retracts. The majority view here in RCU is mech's are best for the Tiger 60 vs pneumatic, electric, or Springair. Of course, I will also need Throttle and flt controls. This bird will be a taildragger.
I believe in keeping electronics matched by manufacturer if possible. So I would like to install Airtronics servos. BUT...if there are servos available that are compatible and work as well with the Airtronics radio, and are less expensive, then that would become the preferred method. I just admit to not being able to read the servo data on Tower's site, or anywhere else, and know what works with what!!!
Based on my limited experiance, a "standard" servo will work with everything I will be doing with the exception of maybe the retracts. And maybe even with those. I dunno.
I hope I have explained myself adequetly. Any help here would be appreciated. My wife (aka Santa) will be getting me the radio for Xmas along with the model kit and engine. If the 2 reciever combo is still available somewhere please PM me so I can turn Santa on to its location ASAP. Thanks for your help guys. I am very glad to be back and anxious to start building again. See yall.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/1/2009 2:04 PM

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Not sure if the two receiver option will ever be avaiable again. but right now the RDS8000 is offered with one receiver for 149.99 from Hobby People. till November 2nd.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/1/2009 2:18 PM

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I think you're making a good choice in a radio. I've had mine for over a year and i love it. I don't think you'll find the 2 rx deal anymore but Hobby People has it on sale with one rx for 149.99. Hitec servos plug in with no problems but futaba has a ear on the plug that has to be trimmed off to fit but both will work fine. You will need a retract servo if you use mechanical retracts but a standard servo will work if are using air retracts.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/1/2009 2:23 PM

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Welcome back to the hobby Steve. I like you took about 9 years off before returning to flying last year. I just recently purchase the RDS8000 and Hitec 635 servos for my GP 300 Extra running a Saito 82. I have several Airtronic radios and never had a problem with any of them.
The 8000 is a nice radio with a good feel when flying. The only down side is no rudder D/R or triple rates. The Hitec servos are quality products with a good price and a two year warranty.

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Wow. Nice long thread. Its actually too long to go through to screen for the most up to date info on this radio. Somewhere in these 76 pages the radio was actually released.
I just came back to the hobby after a 7 year break so the 2.4 technology leap is new to me. And it looks awesome. After doing about 3 months of reading I have decided on buying the Airtronics RD8000. I will install it on a Tiger 60 with retracts. Later on I may add flaps. Right now I have a few questions. First, I wonder if anyone is still monotering this thread that CAN answer my questions. I sure hope there is.
Next, was the radio/2 reciever combo a limited release and not available now?
And....Which servos are compatible? Price is a concern. But I will not go cheap to save a buck if it means poor performance. I will need retract servos for mechanical retracts. The majority view here in RCU is mech's are best for the Tiger 60 vs pneumatic, electric, or Springair. Of course, I will also need Throttle and flt controls. This bird will be a taildragger.
I believe in keeping electronics matched by manufacturer if possible. So I would like to install Airtronics servos. BUT...if there are servos available that are compatible and work as well with the Airtronics radio, and are less expensive, then that would become the preferred method. I just admit to not being able to read the servo data on Tower's site, or anywhere else, and know what works with what!!!
Based on my limited experiance, a "standard" servo will work with everything I will be doing with the exception of maybe the retracts. And maybe even with those. I dunno.
I hope I have explained myself adequetly. Any help here would be appreciated. My wife (aka Santa) will be getting me the radio for Xmas along with the model kit and engine. If the 2 reciever combo is still available somewhere please PM me so I can turn Santa on to its location ASAP. Thanks for your help guys. I am very glad to be back and anxious to start building again. See yall.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/1/2009 3:09 PM

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Thanks for the quick response fellas. I showed Santa the Hobby people website and bookmarked it for her. The info on servos helps alot. Thanks again. And yes of course.....

ROLL TIDE!!!!

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/3/2009 11:54 PM

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Sanwa is running behind on the receivers. There are 2 that are planned, a 6 channel park flyer and a 7 channel full range receiver.

Some of you've asked so I'll address this again: ''binding'' issues: if your radio does not bind, you have to send it in. I've addressed this before. The overall number of ''failures'' of this radio in total is incredibly small, but of the ''failures'' this binding issue is the most common. It comes from the program in the rf chip not booting properly. If it doesn't boot properly when you change models or turn the radio off and on, it doesn't transmit. Once it is on and it works, it doesn't fail. It's not a run-time error, it's a boot error (it's designed that way) so that failure, if it occurs can be found BEFORE you take off.

We've had more complaints about some batteries we had in 1 shipment than we've had about binding or any other issue with the radio. It's that simple.

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Ok here is a problem I just had. I went to the feild with my new plane that I had just spent 2 weeks getting ready. I had put a receiver out of one of my other planes that was working perfectly. was still paired up and had a solid light on both the radio and receiver when turned on.

When I got there, I did all the usual checks, and the blue light was on showing that my receiver was still bound. I did all my usual checks, fired the plane and took off. It got about 60 yards away and than I noticed I had no control over the plane. the plane than began to bank right and slammed into the ground like a yard dart. WOW, I had never had ANY issues out of my radio or receivers. I was stunned to say the least

I went and gathered up My brand new plane as best I could and went home to examine what was left.

I then went back to the feild, thinking I had done something wrong, maybe a switch had failed or something. I did all the usual checks again with the next plane and took off. To my horror, the plane seemed to loose control for a second and I was able to get it to bank back around to the feild and that was it, I had no control over it at all. I got lucky and it glided into the tops of a cornfeild and no damage was done.

But now I just do not know what to do or even go from here. I have used this radio for going on 2 years and is has been great. Do you have any ideas as to what happened? Can I call you and what is your number?
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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/4/2009 3:40 AM

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Ok here is a problem I just had. I went to the feild with my new plane that I had just spent 2 weeks getting ready. I had put a receiver out of one of my other planes that was working perfectly. was still paired up and had a solid light on both the radio and receiver when turned on.

When I got there, I did all the usual checks, and the blue light was on showing that my receiver was still bound. I did all my usual checks, fired the plane and took off. It got about 60 yards away and than I noticed I had no control over the plane. the plane than began to bank right and slammed into the ground like a yard dart. WOW, I had never had ANY issues out of my radio or receivers. I was stunned to say the least

I went and gathered up My brand new plane as best I could and went home to examine what was left.

I then went back to the feild, thinking I had done something wrong, maybe a switch had failed or something. I did all the usual checks again with the next plane and took off. To my horror, the plane seemed to loose control for a second and I was able to get it to bank back around to the feild and that was it, I had no control over it at all. I got lucky and it glided into the tops of a cornfeild and no damage was done.

But now I just do not know what to do or even go from here. I have used this radio for going on 2 years and is has been great. Do you have any ideas as to what happened? Can I call you and what is your number?
THANKS

I lost a plane in a similar manner by forgetting to take the transmitter out of range check mode before take off. Are you range checking your airplanes before flying them to assure that the antenna placement is good? Are you making sure to power cycle the transmitter after range checking your transmitter to be certain you're not still in low power mode?

If the plane passes a proper range check on the ground, and you're certain that the transmitter is out of range check mode prior to actually taking off, the next most likely source of trouble would be pointing your transmitter antenna directly at your model while flying. If you're certain that you're adequately range checking your planes, that you're not taking off in range check mode, and you're not pointing your antenna directly at the plane while flying, then you should send your transmitter and receivers in to be inspected.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/4/2009 4:51 AM

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The manual tells us to be aware of communication devices such as wireless LANs and cell phones. Even though it seems very unlikely, there is always that possibility. I am assuming you are range checking your radio before flying.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/4/2009 10:11 AM

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Although you have to modify the plugs a little, I've been getting Futaba servos, 3152's, with Hi tork. I've been getting them cheap on eBay, from a store called "MNHobbies".

I've bought 3 sets of 4 servos for a little as $62.00, "Buy It Now" for $77.00 for a set o 4. (Tower has them for #29.95 EACH)

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/4/2009 11:47 AM

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I bought a RDS8000 with the 2 rx package and I really like it. My first radio was an old 4ch hitec, then I upgraded to my first computer radio a JR 6ch which was great! However when I got my 3rd plane, a DC-3, i realized 6ch wasnt going to be enough! I am very pleased with this radio and Im so glade that Airtronics provides "economic" options for extra rx (vs the 'other' guys). Some day when I win the lotto and I build my dream model (large scale b52h) Ill be eying their top-of-the-line model for that BUFF.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/4/2009 1:00 PM

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I called the phone number listed here in the thread. I was amazed at how easy it was to get the information I needed, and get help.
I came to the realization that, because my RDS8000 has worked so good, that I left out the most important part of checking my plane and radio for my first flight of the day, Range check. I went back and tested my second plane and the radio and found out while I was doing the range check that once I got beyond about 60 paces the plane no longer responded to the radio correctly. There by letting me know there was something wrong.

I hope that others do not make the mistake I did by assuming that since the last time I flew my planes, that everything was still fine and that a range check was not needed.

If I had done the range check I would have known something was wrong.

As soon as I get the money together, I want to go buy another RDS8000 radio and 2 receivers at the local hobby shop. This radio has been the best I ever had.

I will send this one in for service, as I have full confidence the service department will get the issue taken care of for me. These people are second to none in my book. Very helpful, and easy to deal with.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/4/2009 2:26 PM

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Batteries seem to be the largest issue with other systems. I think this is the very first range related issue I have read about the RDS8000. I would be interested to hear your results. 60 paces in range test mode is excellent before signs of trouble! Even 40 paces is good results!

Hope it turns out to be an easy fix!

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/5/2009 5:45 AM

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I always walk about 30 paces as recommended in the manual, each pace is about 2 ft. so that makes it about 60 ft. I believe 60 paces may be too much.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/5/2009 1:32 PM

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The Manual states that the TX will revert to back to normal operation after three minutes in the range check mode but, I always shut it off and reboot before flying.

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I always walk about 30 paces as recommended in the manual, each pace is about 2 ft. so that makes it about 60 ft. I believe 60 paces may be too much.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/5/2009 5:09 PM

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When I 1st got my RDS8000, I called them to find out how important placement of the antennas was... they said most important,

You have to have the antennas at 90 degrees to each other, I use a car radio antenna tube, cut into small sections orient the antennas so they stay where I want them.

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RE: *Airtronics RD8000 2.4 GHz* - 11/7/2009 4:33 AM

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fellas i have an issue with having to replace an antenna on one of my 92824 recievers. its an easy fix. just plugs into board. does anybody know where i can get the replacement antennas ? thanks in advance.

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