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OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 8/21/2007 7:21:30 AM   
mikenlapaz



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http://www.f22-raptor.com/media/video_gallery/videos/F22_AirShow_Langley.wmv


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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 8/21/2007 8:04:44 AM   
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That is one heck of a demo...
And to think, they said jets can't 3D...

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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 8/21/2007 8:08:23 AM   
mikenlapaz



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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 8/23/2007 4:38:12 PM   
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militarytimes.com/multimedia/video/mig29/

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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 8/29/2007 1:47:15 AM   
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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 8/31/2007 12:29:23 AM   
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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 9/1/2007 7:05:46 PM   
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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 9/3/2007 12:40:42 AM   
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Status: offline 		That airshow video is pretty cool but looks suspiciously similar to what the Migs and Sukhois have been doing in their routines for quite some time. Could Lockheed-Martin have hired one of those Russian pilots to do that Langley F-22 demo?

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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 10/15/2007 2:02:35 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Kweasel

Now the US has a plane that can do what an SU-31 can do.



To attempt to compare the SU-31 to a F-22 because of an airshow video is just pure ridiculous. There is no fighter airplane in the world today that even comes close to the F-22. The F-22 was put to a test against 5 F-15's in a mock air to air combat, the F-22 killed all 5 F-15's and the f-15's never even got to see what shot them down.( Mock battle of course). This is a pretty big feat considering that the F-15 has never been beat in a air-air combat, it has a record of 101-0.

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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 10/19/2007 1:23:58 AM   
H5606


 

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ORIGINAL: rcairflr


quote:

ORIGINAL: Kweasel

Now the US has a plane that can do what an SU-31 can do.



To attempt to compare the SU-31 to a F-22 because of an airshow video is just pure ridiculous. There is no fighter airplane in the world today that even comes close to the F-22. The F-22 was put to a test against 5 F-15's in a mock air to air combat, the F-22 killed all 5 F-15's and the f-15's never even got to see what shot them down.( Mock battle of course). This is a pretty big feat considering that the F-15 has never been beat in a air-air combat, it has a record of 101-0.


But, an SU-31 will never, ever require a nose gear tire change.

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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 10/24/2007 4:34:21 AM   
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Subject: The New F/A-22

Fast (super-cruise*) and stealthy, and integrated avionics are

cool, but what's really impressive is the F/A-22s low speed

stability and maneuverability. In the late 40s and to early 60s aeronautical engineers were going nuts on how to shape

intakes to handle both subsonic and super-sonic air flows,

without stagnation or compressor stalls. Supersonic in itself

was a big challenge because you had to use shock waves to

slow the intake air mass to sub-sonic before it hit the

compressor blades, or they would stall. The engineers figured

it out, but the solution was keeping a lot of air going in the front

end to make sure that all hot air kept going out the back end.

As you watch this Mach 2 airplane suspend motionless in air

and do tail slides, be aware of the truly amazing performance

of the engines and intakes.

Some used to think the Su-27 / Su-31 "Cobra" maneuver was

the epitome of 3 rd to 4 th generation fighter maneuverability.

That snap maneuver doesn't hold a candle to what this two-dimensional

vectored-thrust fighter with fat independent

horizontal stabs can do at low speed. There must be far more

tricks up its sleeve in the high subsonic dogfight speed range.

The video is about 4 minutes long but the last 30-40 seconds

are priceless.

http://www.f22-raptor.com/media/video_gallery/videos/F22_AiShow_Langley.wmv



Watch the elevators of the airplane in this demo. They work independently. It also has vectored thrust.

*Supercruise: The F/A-22 can sustain supersonic flight without the use of fuel-gulping afterburners.

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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 10/27/2007 2:37:52 AM   
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Status: offline 		The narrative is by one of the air show pilots, Maj Paul Moga.

Location: Calif. Capital Airshow 2007
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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 10/28/2007 12:54:08 AM   
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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 10/29/2007 1:57:54 AM   
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RE: OOPS LET'S GO THE OTHER WAY f-22 - 11/2/2007 5:51:26 AM   
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