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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/1/2007 4:45:25 AM

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All I got to say is I love the Twist 150 It is a fine looking plane and I subscribe to this thread to read about her and her owners and not the profile planes

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/1/2007 6:11:17 AM

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ORIGINAL: moterhead

Ok.. your video shows someone hovering a Twist. How about a video of it doing rollers a foot off the deck, or inverted harriers...or a blender..is that possible with a Twist?

Gonzo.. I like my pic better

BTW...any of you guys that fly Twist live in Texas? If so come on over to the Huckfest this month at http://www.bomberfieldusa.com/index01.htm Would love to have you

No...due to the extra weight of a fuselage and very thick air-foiled wings, the Twist series planes are limited in their aerobatic abilities. Add to that the shorter wings (designed to spin or 'twist' the plane) and short fuselage, you end up with a plane that can do most but not all true 3D maneuvers. But, these planes were designed to be a blast to fly with a variety of engines...and some folks don't fly 3D at all, they couldn't care less. Personally, I can hover it, knife edge, inverted flat spin, upright harrier and can out-twist a longer winged profile plane any day of the week while I'm on high rate.
The rest of you guys of the Brotherhood are right...how did we get into a heated conversation about the comparison of 3D profile planes and the hangar 9 Twist. Someone called my new plane a POS compared to his...that irritated me....but cr@p on his. Let's get back on subject, shall we?
BTW...can it be...is it possible...just what if...there could be more than one brotherhood on this forum without being accused of stealing an idea? Really scratching my head right now in deep wonderment.------YES!, yes it is possible. 'Nuf said.

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/1/2007 6:32:04 AM

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linkadrip,

You were asking about gas throttle setups so here's mine for G23. would probably work for G26 or most gas engine carbs where the link shaft for the throttle is vertical. With some different bends, woulld work for horizontal as well. To do what I did you need a good quality metal break...a small one will suffice, we're only bending 2-56 wire here. The bends have to be perfect to clear everything. A support wire soldered at the lower final bend to carb link helps.

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/1/2007 6:50:49 AM

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Never heard of the 'Pro Bro' forum. What the?? Is it new? Is it about RC? Don't want to join,...just very curious. To avoid advertising them or spreading their URL around, you can pm me more info. Is that like a snobby countryclub type arrangement?

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/1/2007 7:54:24 AM

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Outacontrol thank you for posting the pictures of your thottle setup i like it. Better then my idea looks less constricting. My idea would probably have binding in it I wont know till i try it. But seen someone use flexiable cable for a throttle setup with a Simular configuration as mine on a different forum. So i thought i would give that a shot but it doesnt seem to be as solid as your setup. And i have the equipment to do a configuration like yours so i think i will give your idea shot first. Mainly i'm itchin to get this plane runnin. I notice you have what looks like a toggle switch on top i guess for the ignition i tried to instal a regular switch on mine and dont have the room for the switch between the tank and the wall so i was looking at a different way to do that also.

I would imagine i could get a small toggle switch at a automotive store like autozone or some hardware stor like home depot. So i'll look for one of them.

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/1/2007 12:15:14 PM

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Ok everyone. I just cleaned this this page up and removed all posts that were based on an argument and sent no notifications to the members concerned.

I am respectfully asking that the thread remain on topic, no posting of links to competing forums unless it is answering a very specific question, and all the little petty bickering must stop. There will be no other warning.

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/1/2007 2:23:59 PM

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link...the swith I installed on top of fuse is an ignition switch for safety and it's from Zenoah. Got it at my LHS...about 7 buck I think. The front of the fuse is very tight to install a switch or anything else so I simply installed in the top hatch door. Works for me.

Be sure to use plastic cable for your throttle and place your throttle servo where intended from factory. Also...DON'T be tempted to put your ignition swith back any further near your receiver. Keep it up front. And...use the bend system I've posted, you won't be sorry. Good luck.
P.S. Thanks for sending info about Pro Bro....I think I'll keep my distance from that.

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/1/2007 4:13:51 PM

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Ok everyone. I just cleaned this this page up and removed all posts that were based on an argument and sent no notifications to the members concerned.

I am respectfully asking that the thread remain on topic, no posting of links to competing forums unless it is answering a very specific question, and all the little petty bickering must stop. There will be no other warning.

...THANK YOU so Much...

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/1/2007 4:40:15 PM

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Back to the point of this forum. Im in the middle of building my 150(very easy so far). If any one has some close ups of how they mounted a 1.80 saito that would be great. Im trying to decide to nach out the cheak for the throttle or just sand down the inside. Im sure the 1.50 would look the same so either or would be greatly appriciated.

thanks

So do you have any pics of the building? How is it going?

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/2/2007 11:48:39 PM

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I got the plane at about 11 am on weds. and had it done by 12 midnight that night. Would have been faster but i wanted to check there fuel tank. I ended up upgrading the stopper with one of those sullivan heavy duty and used large fuel tubing. I read its good for the big saitos. So i had the plane at the field the next day and broke in the new engine like they said. On the second flight my engine started making this bad noise I thought something was going to be hanging off it when i landed like a valve cover or muffler. Every looked good though. I readjusted the tappets and started it up and thought i fixed it but once it got back up to temp. the noise came back. Its my second saito 1.80 and the first one still runs like new with about 200 flights on it so i kinda know these engines. Guys at the feild were like take it apart and see whats up with it. I said if it was 10 years old sure. But i figure if you spend $425 on a engine you shouldnt have to be taking it all apart to fix it after two flights and a gentle break in. I sent it back to horizon today!! The plane flew awsome though, I love it. Only thing i noticed is if you got it going real slow for landing it needed alot of elevator to flare it. I thought there low rates looked nuts so i cut it back some but i added back about 15% but didnt get to fly it since i changed it. Id like to hear how people who have got used to this plane feel about landing it. I never hurt mine but the last time i landed i had full elevator and she was nt slowing the decent. Ill put up some pictures when i get the engine back in it.

Thanks for the info and pictures of the engine installation Snacker. Thats just how i did mine.

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/3/2007 1:30:21 AM

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I didn't cut a notch and only used a dremel to hollow out enough room for the throttle linkage on my Saito 1.50 to move smoothly. Then I drilled holes in each side. One for the high speed and one for the low speed. The wooden dowel is just there to show you how I adjust the high speed. There is a large cut off T-Pin in the hole at the end of the high speed needle valve that was secured buy the set screw already there. It is hidden inside the plane so that's the reason for the dowl. I just use a very small regular screwdriver through the other hole to adjust the low speed needle valve. I just notched it out so it could turn the T-Pin.

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/3/2007 6:32:44 AM

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ORIGINAL: paolino1818

I got the plane at about 11 am on weds. and had it done by 12 midnight that night. Would have been faster but i wanted to check there fuel tank. I ended up upgrading the stopper with one of those sullivan heavy duty and used large fuel tubing. I read its good for the big saitos. So i had the plane at the field the next day and broke in the new engine like they said. On the second flight my engine started making this bad noise I thought something was going to be hanging off it when i landed like a valve cover or muffler. Every looked good though. I readjusted the tappets and started it up and thought i fixed it but once it got back up to temp. the noise came back. Its my second saito 1.80 and the first one still runs like new with about 200 flights on it so i kinda know these engines. Guys at the feild were like take it apart and see whats up with it. I said if it was 10 years old sure. But i figure if you spend $425 on a engine you shouldnt have to be taking it all apart to fix it after two flights and a gentle break in. I sent it back to horizon today!! The plane flew awsome though, I love it. Only thing i noticed is if you got it going real slow for landing it needed alot of elevator to flare it. I thought there low rates looked nuts so i cut it back some but i added back about 15% but didnt get to fly it since i changed it. Id like to hear how people who have got used to this plane feel about landing it. I never hurt mine but the last time i landed i had full elevator and she was nt slowing the decent. Ill put up some pictures when i get the engine back in it.

Thanks for the info and pictures of the engine installation Snacker. Thats just how i did mine.

No problem.

I never noticed needing a lot of elevator on landings with mine. It's just floated in like my trainer only more touchy. I haven't been flying for about a month or so because I've been refurbing a condo every day off lately. I'm not exactly an expert with this plane yet but I'll pay more attention to my next landing and see if I'm using a lot of elevator too.

Sorry to hear about the engine. I haven't had any issues with mine (knock on wood). Let us know how it works out.

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RE: Twist 3D 150 ARF - 11/3/2007 7:05:21 AM

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Flew mine yesterday...I can't possibly find enough praise for this plane's flight characteristics. I like it even more than my Twist 60. Was hovering with the G23 installed and using an APC 16x4 prop. It would hover it but only at full throttle and it barely climbed. As long as I'm at full throttle it holds it's own with nothing to spare. I'm going to try an APC 16x6w and see if it improves thrust slightly. Not looking for gobs of power or I would have used a bigger engine...just a slightly better climb rate. Otherwise, aerobatics and other 3D is suberb. This plane is a real winner. Yea, this thread may sound like a Twist 150 Love Festival 2007, but it's hard to bash a reasonably priced funfly ARF, ALOT of stuff preassembled, and such a good flyer. Later.

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