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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/20/2007 6:57:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks.. Rims to be dyed black, and a black wing soon to be ordered(my only compaint about the Hyper ST Pro so far - the white rims and wing - but that's just not my taste.. And yeah, hardly something to b.itch about) I just put the front shock tower on - this thing is BEEF...

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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/20/2007 7:14:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		the only neg i see about the hyper is the fact that the aluminum parts are forged/cast, not billet... so they mold the part then cnc it to make it look pretty. so im curious to see how that stuff holds up? ya know how everyone hates integy? well the hyper has all integy aluminum. hopefully the pieces are thick enough to counter act the softness?

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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/20/2007 7:21:03 PM   
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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/20/2007 8:35:30 PM   
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the only neg i see about the hyper is the fact that the aluminum parts are forged/cast, not billet... so they mold the part then cnc it to make it look pretty. so im curious to see how that stuff holds up? ya know how everyone hates integy? well the hyper has all integy aluminum. hopefully the pieces are thick enough to counter act the softness?


Imagine the blingy billet upgrade possiblitities ?????

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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/20/2007 11:00:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		ya could be, but maybe that factory stuff will hold up fine? its really freakin thick! but i suppose some billet towers would be thinner and lighter...
the hyper is so wicked i dont care about the integy shock towers! lol..

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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/20/2007 11:57:42 PM   
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i too noticed that the towers were cast but i have landed many times on the front upside down with the front tower taking the hit and no probs..if there are after market stuff , i think they would only be lighter not stronger..time will tell..



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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/21/2007 6:35:01 AM   
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ORIGINAL: revopqrs

the only neg i see about the hyper is the fact that the aluminum parts are forged/cast, not billet... so they mold the part then cnc it to make it look pretty. so im curious to see how that stuff holds up? ya know how everyone hates integy? well the hyper has all integy aluminum. hopefully the pieces are thick enough to counter act the softness?


Just to clarify, when you say the Hyper has "all Integy aluminum".., do you mean the stuff comes right out of the same factory as the Integy stuff, or that it's just made the same way??

I've never even seen Integy stuff up close, cuz I've only ever heard how horrible it is.. I do however have Integy tierod eliminators on my Savage, and so far so great..(Integra recommended them, so I figured they were safe...)

One thing about the ST Pro bits, they match the cooling head of my Mach!!...
(yes that was being ironic...)

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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/21/2007 4:16:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		no theyre not made by integy, but same process... cast likes to snap, not bend. but bein that the towers are so thick it might not be an issue?

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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/21/2007 4:35:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have a question isn't all aluminum cast at some point? Think about it, at the aluminum factory they take the aluminum melt it down and cast big blocks for the industry. The different grades are different alloys they add to the aluminum. I don't know a lot but I seen this show called Modern marvels and it was on how aluminum is made. I think Integy is a really low grade aluminum http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&ct=res&cd=4&url=http%3A%2F%2Fen.wikipedia.org%2Fwiki%2FAluminium_alloy&ei=pl1ER6-7O4aKpAT1loWoCw&usg=AFQjCNH3IiMX1KRaEAfuufyAaI9V1Tztvw&sig2=2DHlJWW0swrOjnfm7ll9Qw

I hope this link works it is very informative

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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/21/2007 5:32:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		its called billet when it comes from the factory, some people choose to machine the billet into shape, some mold it. not sure why, but the casting process make it weaker than billet thats been machined. at least thats what ive always been told.
maybe some aluminum person will see this and explain for us! lol.. if you break a cast piece and look at the inside it looks grainy? maybe the process that the companies use to cast causes that? i now every hobby ive been into the same logic applies... billet is always better.


here.. maybe this explains it? the process is very strict when it comes out of a factory as billit.

"Alcoa’s billets are produced to provide the best performance at the extrusion press in terms of speeds, surface finish and mechanical properties. Before casting, the molten metal is treated to ensure it is clean and free of excessive hydrogen contamination. Alcoa extrusion ingot is virtually free of dross, porosities, metallic inclusions, oxides or other undesirable contamination and discontinuities. The chemical trace elements are controlled to a very low contamination level. The internal microstructure is modified through a controlled thermal treatment known as homogenizing process. The main objectives for homogenizing the billets are: minimize the detrimental effect of the “as cast” Fe phases, eliminate grain or micro- segregation and break up the intermetallic constituents producing a well refined easier to extrude microstructure."


maybe when a 3rd party casts a piece the process isnt as good?

in that link you provided theres some intersting facts.. but it doesnt answer our question...

cast alloys use a different number system, there will be a decimal point.

The Aluminium Association (AA) has adopted a nomenclature similar to that of wrought alloys. British Standard and DIN have different designations. In the AA system, the second two digits reveal the minimum percentage of aluminium, e.g. 150.x correspond to a minimum of 99.50% aluminium. The digit after the decimal point takes a value of 0 or 1, denoting casting and ingot respectively [4]. The main alloying elements in the AA system are as follows:

* 1xx.x series are minimum 99% aluminium
* 2xx.x series copper
* 3xx.x series silicon, copper and/or magnesium
* 4xx.x series silicon
* 5xx.x series magnesium
* 7xx.x series zinc
* 8xx.x series tin
* 9xx.x series miscellaneous


wrought/aerospace alloys.

* 7075 aluminium
* 6061 aluminium
* 6063 aluminium
* 2024 aluminium
* 5052 aluminium

notice theres no cast numbers there? so why wouldnt the aerospace program use cast aluminum? probably because its inferior...

7000 series are alloyed with zinc, and can be precipitation hardened to the highest strengths of any aluminium alloy. what we want are 7075 parts, no decimal point.



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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/21/2007 8:26:59 PM   
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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/21/2007 9:28:19 PM   
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Do I need to put grease inside the diff case?? In my Savage X SS instructions it says to.. It's too late for the front, but I'm in the middle of the rear at the mo...



dont use the greese they supplied with ya kit...its crap...use a good quality diff oil..there are many weights of it..do a little search in this thred and other threds and you will find the answers to your questions..(been asked a zillion times)..cheers

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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/21/2007 9:29:11 PM   
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Status: offline 		I would not run it unless you have greased the ring and pinion gears in the diffs.

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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/21/2007 9:32:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Not what I meant.. The diffs are sorted - ON THE INSIDE(and with silicone oil - not grease, which is what I'm talking about..) I mean just before putting the whole front or rear end assembly on the chassis... In the Savage instructions it's clearly stated - put grease on the OUTSIDE teeth of the main diff gear before attaching the skid plate..(and inside the cups where the bones go for that matter..)

Whatever the case, I did it on the rear, but not the front..

Only wanted to ask if this is something important enough to go take the front end off and put some grease in there...

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RE: the hyper st PRO thread! - 11/21/2007 9:33:11 PM   
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