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better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 8/30/2007 2:24:54 PM   
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i was wondering if ther was a better seaplane than the seamaster...theres the seawind, but i've heard a lot of guys with them that were very disapointed in their water handling abilities. i fly off of a large lake and it can get rough at times. there is tha mariner, but i am a little weary of the wing floats catching on takeoff or landings. and the mariner as well as the seamonster have v-hulls, which take longer to get off the water. so for the money is there truely a better seaplane. the things i dont care for on the seamaster is the fact that the covering only last so long when mixed with water..if it were glassed it would be awesome. also dont care for the flimbsy horzintal/vertical tail stab configuration. can anyone point me in a better direction than the seamaster is it the best you are gonna get?
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RE: better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 8/30/2007 3:16:51 PM   
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There is one called the Neptune which is a Seamaster Clone, but it's supposed to be better-built.

I have not seen one, but if my seamaster bit the bullet, I'd replace it with one of these:

https://www.quicktechhobby.com/Airplane/Power%20Line%20Hobbies/neptune_arf.htm

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RE: better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 8/30/2007 3:26:53 PM   
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First of all, unlike the mariner, the seamaster has a flat bottom and take off lengths are quite short. The T-tail does seem to be a bit flimsy although I've never had any issues with it and I've definitely pushed the limits of it's aerobatic capabilities. A couple of guy wires for support would get rid of a lot of the flimsyness. The advantage of this design is it puts the elevator right in the propwash for excellent low speed handling and makes take offs a breeze. As far as the covering Ihaven't had an issue. I sealed the pushrod exits and siliconed the wing seat and that keeps it dry. The seamaster has my vote. Price is reasonable too.

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RE: better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 8/30/2007 3:38:29 PM   
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Ditto, I liked the Mariner, but I give over all performance to the Seamaster/Neptune

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RE: better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 8/30/2007 5:39:57 PM   
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Minnflyer, I just had a look at the link on the neptune and I can't believe how much it looks like a seamaster. The link didn't give any indication of weight but the fuse construction looks lighter then the SM. Lots of speed holes! At 7 lb. the seamaster is on the heavy side for a forty. Anyone out there have a neptune? How does the neptune compare price wise?

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RE: better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 8/30/2007 10:29:10 PM   
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Nothing beats a "Seamaster" for water handling qualities. Bar none!

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RE: better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 8/31/2007 4:36:31 AM   
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I've got a Neptune...Love it! I'm running a Magnum .61 four stroke (which can only muster 9400rpm on an APC 12x6). Plane takes off in about 10 feet and flies really well. My vertical sucks, but that's just my weak engine. I haven't flow a Seamaster so I can't compare, but the tail on the Neptune is not flimsy at all.

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RE: better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 9/1/2007 12:28:12 AM   
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Well, if you're just going to take it out of a box and go fly, those are your choices. If you are willing to build, find plans for a SeaCruiser. It's the mostest bestest flying boat ever.

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RE: better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 9/1/2007 3:05:57 PM   
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If your set on getting a flying boat, then one with a V hull will handle rough water better.. Just like a "real" boat ... Guess it depends on how much "rough" water flying you plan to do... But you might consider a plane with floats too, that elliminates the tip float issue .... It depends what you want it for , aerobatics or just putting around...

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RE: better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 9/1/2007 3:10:18 PM   
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One of the really nice things about the flat bottom that the Seamaster/Neptune sports is the way it handles on water.

You can bring it around a sharp, fast turn and it sort of side-slips as it turns.

It looks really cool!

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RE: better all-around seaplane than seamaster? - 9/3/2007 5:58:30 AM   
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I can water ski with my Mariner, too. Just hold aleron and rudder in the same direction. Scoots around really neat looking. By holding aleron in the same direction , that keeps the tip float on the inside of the turn in the water for drag. Figure 8's are really fun. And about the Neptune, A friend has one. He got it on my recomendation. It's cheaper than the Mariner by $100, about $10 or so cheaper than the Sea Master and it's a great flyer. I put the maiden flight on my friends Neptune. I think he has an OS 46 AX on it. It got right off the water, had no bad habits and flew just fine. If my Mariner ever goes in, I'll replace it with a Neptune. And that's my 2 cents.
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