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Old Rotorhead -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (10/29/2007 5:30:58 PM)

Helihap -
The FS8 for use on eCCPM requires replacing the rec. in the Blackhawk for the one that comes with the FS8. You order a crystal to match the freq. your tx is on. Seems to be a good rec., but is 3 times the size. Also has a small control panel that has to be mounted somewhere. Lotta stuff to hang on a 450 size heli. As I said before, I still don't have it working right.



PaulLee -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (10/29/2007 9:32:13 PM)

complicated but I have heard that a lot of people like them.



SteveCink -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/1/2007 1:48:15 AM)

thought about it but didn't indulge. I am doing good with this helicopter and can't risk another thing to think about, at least not right now.



PaulLee -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/3/2007 7:19:54 PM)

agreed - once one become comfortable then using for big steps in progression make good idea too.



TomOver -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/4/2007 1:55:08 AM)

sort of a bummer that winter is approaching but there is always warm clothes. How do the motors and electronics perform when its real cold outside???



Helihap -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/4/2007 11:38:27 PM)

Seems like they would be ok considering other electronics that maintain their utility and prob runs cooler. There may be some RF drift but not sure on that either.



MiniCwik -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/5/2007 11:53:39 AM)

Yes, winter is definitely knocking on the door here in MI ... I finally got the Spectrum lipo battery monitor installed and got some flights in this weekend, yesterday evening was great with little to no winds but temps were in the low 50's to upper 40's with the sun going down, now an hour earlier (time change bs).

I hope I will be able to fly outdoors until it gets into the 30's because I don't know that I will be able to wait until Spring to fly [:o]

But man the heli flew great yesterday, it's really a sweet bird! I received my Pro-Line Assault canopy and hope to get it painted and mounted soon. It's definitely not as bulky as the stock one, not sure if that's a good or bad thing yet.



ea01bg -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/6/2007 12:03:08 AM)

Looking forward to a pic[:D]



srouthouse -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/6/2007 12:06:23 AM)

i just got the BH450se from mike showed up in 2 days and a follow up email. great service and his parts are cheap.

i have a question regarding the charging. my rtf came with a charger and balancer am i correct thinking you use both at once???



gino198 -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/6/2007 12:16:56 AM)

no he believes the one with the light is faster but it is not a balancer so he throws that one in. I alternate between the quicler charge and the balancer. Sometimes I just use the balancer/charger. They both charge the batteries.



srouthouse -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/6/2007 12:19:30 AM)

what kind of charge times are you looking at?



srouthouse -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/6/2007 12:58:49 AM)

another quick question. the blades hit the ground and power was cut. i lost a half inch to a inch of the woode blades on both sides it pushed the motor back in its mounts instead of stripping the main gear. i have new blades and the motor is remounted properly and now when i turn the heli on the servos will move but now i get no power to the blades at all. is this normal for such a small oops??? and what is the remedy?



gino198 -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/6/2007 1:54:26 AM)

actually 1/2 of wood could be a tough blade strike, good news on the gear not stripping though - some ideas and things to check
does the motor turn when you fire it up?
is the pinion still tight on the shaft and properly seated with the gear teeth?
are the plugs from the motor to the ESC still tight?
if you manually turn the motor does the gear turn?
did you strip the one way bearing inside the main gear?



srouthouse -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/6/2007 2:21:56 AM)

i just went out with a fully charged battery and it fired up and ran perfect :)

it was running fine before the crash and i charged the battery for 30 minutes with the balancer so go figure.

oh well all is good now. the heli held up good for a small crash.

on a side note now im using the trex 315mm plastic blades and i think they will hold up a little better then the cheap woodies



MiniCwik -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/6/2007 11:59:23 AM)

I too had a blade strike last night, what's with that?

Anyway, I was playing around with piro'ing a little and I think the radio glitched on me and then being that I was in my basement I didn't have much room for error and the blades struck a PVC downpipe and shattered both of them. I was powering it down and nothing else appears to have been affected, so I will pickup new blades today and learned a lesson ... if flying in a basement or other confined space, don't try and do too much [:D]



TomOver -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/7/2007 12:01:37 AM)

that is what is good about woodies- if they were carbon the impact would have transfered the energy/damage to other parts of the helicopter va wood just splits or breaks.



srouthouse -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/7/2007 7:02:23 AM)

what is the trick for powering up the blades. i start my radio with the throttle down and throttle trim down and
sometimes the servos will move but the main motor wont power up?

man this heli hovers easy im green as can be and i took off and landed 10-15 times on pavement without a blade strike.

my only other issue is sometimes the heli looses rear rotor controls completly before i try and fly it. i wiggle wires and it connects.

in flight it glitches real bad [maybe every 2 minutes] and the whole flight changes and its hard to control to the ground but ive made it.



Helihap -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/7/2007 12:27:23 PM)

I used to over burn LIPO batteries before I learned the difference to NiCads and had power issues until I realized that I over discharged them and needed a new batt. Also, make sure there is not a lot of electronics, pumps, motors etc nearby that can cause rf interference.



srouthouse -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/7/2007 4:59:20 PM)

i think its more then that as it wont start all the time at home to, same with the rear rotor. never flown at home so i dont know about the in flight glitch,s



TomOver -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/7/2007 11:48:04 PM)

I would call or write Mr Mike



srouthouse -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/8/2007 1:20:29 AM)

i did write mike

he first wanted just to return it and send me a new heli but im kinda attached lol to this one.

ill figure it out with there help and learn along the way. great customer service



srouthouse -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/8/2007 6:12:29 AM)

well i did figure it out, there was a intermittent short in the rear tail control servo. with the radio off i wiggled the servo wire and the main blades fired up and it ran across the floor into my swamp cooler in the basement and broke the rear tail plastic pitch slider scuffed up my new main blades and rear blades and who knows what else.

im bummed, but glad it didnt come in my direction or it would have cracked/cut me hard with those composite align blades



PaulLee -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/8/2007 11:25:54 AM)

ouch - radio must always be on or helicopter will go nuts



MiniCwik -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/8/2007 1:09:57 PM)

Ouch is right and yeah, that radio TX needs to be on to prevent that ... I even use throttle hold/cut when working on things.



srouthouse -> RE: The Better HeliPro Black Hawk (11/8/2007 7:02:31 PM)

now its back to the drawing board.

if i powered the copter up first then the remote would that cause the rear tail servo not to function?



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