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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 9/25/2007 5:33:30 PM   
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REEG - Sorry the RTV didnt work. That was a quick attempt at fixing the problem. I think Zain might be on to something? Do you see fuel and dirt accumulated on your engine around the flywheel (Between the flywheel and engine block) and/or by the pull starter area? If you do, first thing is not to panic becasue you need that. Thats how those bearings get lubricated. But if theres an excessive amount, then you have air leaks in this/these areas. Common problem on used nitro engines. Bearings need replacing. Did you rebuild your carburetor? My LHS told me the carbs are notorious for leaks. As Zain said, there are O-rings on the needles. They are fitted over grooves in the needles so they move with the needle when you turn them. When you remove the needle, do it slowly. Replace the O-rings and give it another try.
Heres a lits of other things to do/try:
1. Hows your compression? When you pull gently on the pull starter rope, is there resistance, then it gets easy, then resistance again? If not your piston/sleeve are worn. Time to replace.
2. Take your pipe off and flush it out with water. Then blow dry it with compressed air. Maybe you have buildup in the pipe if your carb has been running rich? Ive seen this happen.
3. Fuel line and pressure line are good? Zip tie your tubing connections. Eliminate all areas for possible air leaks.
4. Do you clean your air filter after every 1 hour of run time? Clean it if you dont.
5. What glow plug are you using? Hot? Medium? Cool?
6. Hows your fuel? Is it relatively new? Do you leave it open when you run? Do you drain out your tank of whats ever left after you run and put it back in your fuel container? Dont. Maybe you have contaminated fuel? Nitro fuel is like a moisture magnet. Leave it open and it sucks moisture in. Get some fresh fuel if you suspect contamination and keep it closed when not being used.
7. Make sure your idle is open about 1mm. Remove the air filter and look in the carb. You can see the slide (silver cylinder). Adjust the idle screw so its open about 1mm. Dont set your idle with your servo end point adjustments.
8. Do you have a starter box? I tried the pull start method for my first 5 drops of fuel in tank one for break in. Ive used a starter box ever since. My fingers thank me. Pull starting is never fun with an engine that is way out of tune. Not a corrective action to your problem(s), but a method that will keep you from getting discouraged and from punitng it across your yard. LOL
9. Never tune a cold/cool engine. Make sure it is at operating temperature before you tune. Tune HSN first, LSN second.
10. Are there any exhaust leaks? Look around the header engine mating surface. Any signs of leaks? Fuel deposits? How about the coupler between the header and pipe? Zip tie that coupler tight. Replace the exhaust header seal if you see signs of leaks.
11. Make sure the cooling head screws are tight. Give each one a twist. Dont over do it or they will strip. Just check to make sure they have not come loose.
Im just throwing out these ideas. Most can have an impact on the performance of your engine. Try them one at a time. If you do them all and your engine runs fine afterwards, then youll have no idea what the problem was. If it happens again, youll have to do them all over again. One at a time. Well get you through this. Dont give up. Good Luck!

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 9/25/2007 8:17:23 PM   
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Hi Jerzferno
Wow thanks for all the info - I really appreciate it -- I'll try & check everything on your list -- I'll only have a chance to check everything on Saturday though -- I wish it were sooner .
Cheers
Thanks again !

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 9/25/2007 9:14:56 PM   
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Hi Jerzferno
Wow thanks for all the info - I really appreciate it -- I'll try & check everything on your list -- I'll only have a chance to check everything on Saturday though -- I wish it were sooner .
Cheers
Thanks again !

sad to hear that ur having problems with your inferno the problems i had with my car were all my fault havent had one problem at all with my car very easy to tune love it its so fast

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 9/26/2007 8:30:43 AM   
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This can happen, My mate bought a st us sports at the same time as i did, his gxr28 runs like a champ on 25%, while mine was nothing but a pig. I replaced it with a better engine, and have kept it as a spare

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 9/28/2007 5:22:25 AM   
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Well the OS V-Spec has finally been installed. But not with ease. LOL I had to fabricate a duplicate lower engine mount and double up on them. The flywheel was hanging below the chassis. Now its perfect. So I put it all together and rolled it on the floor and hear this screeching sound. The rear drive shaft was rubbing on the upper engine mount. A little work with the dremel took care of that. Oh, to rewind before I even installed the engine. Remember I raced at my tracks annual 2 day event on September 8th and 9th? After I race, about the second or third day I disassemble, inspect, and clean. I didnt do any of that until last night. I find one of my rear shocks was blown out. The shaft got slightly bent, and wiped out the O-rings. Most of the oil leaked out and the shaft was scored very badly. Must have happened early on during that weekend. So Im scurrying around looking for new ones, but they wont get here by Sunday. I called up my LHS who I became friends with, and race with him. Hes loaning me his rear shocks from his Inferno 777. Cooooool. I still have to break this engine in however. I made some solid rods out of Delrin to take place of the shocks. I wont have rear suspension, but who needs it during break in? So tomorrow and Saturday Ill break it in. On Sunday Ill install the loaner shocks, and see what happens. Ill keep you posted. Come on A-Main. LOL

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 9/28/2007 6:09:01 AM   
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Good to hear about that! you're more than just a driver now. that's my kind of man! having the ability to customize stuff means this hobby is meant for you.

i'm gonna pass the big bore shocks. they're soooo expensive as of this time. anyway have no problems yet on my stocks. they seem ok and got no leaks. don't forget to keep us posted Jerz, laters!

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 9/28/2007 11:24:26 AM   
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Best of luck Jerz...we're waiting for your feedback after the event buddy.

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 9/29/2007 9:26:21 PM   
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Well heres some feed back during and after break in. WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW. Did I say WOOOOOOOOOOOOOW? LOl This engine header and pipe combination is unbelieveable. I learned a few things about my Kyosho big block from beaking in this engine. My Kyosho engine was running hot, real hot. It would flame out a lot, but it was getting good smoke? To be honest with you, I was afraid to put a temp gun on it. After one race, my brother in law place a paper naplin on the exhaust stinger to shut it off. The paper smoked in about one second. Man thats hot. Looking around the OS engine, it is nice a dry. the Kyosho engine was soaking wet around the fly wheel area. that indicated a massive air leak. that woudlexplain my extreme temperature problem and flame outs. the bearing must be toast? Ill rebuild it over the winter so I have a big block available for some project. well , tomorrow should be interesting. Ill let ya know.

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 9/29/2007 9:42:49 PM   
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funny u mention the leak...i sealed up my GXR28 on my Inferno GT last weekend and I ran it today and the chassis (right under the engine) was filled with oil!!

now since its all sealed up i have one place i can think off....the front bearing. The engine has only about half a gallon on it and this is an onroad car not my buggy, so not too much dirt to get in there.

anyways i'm just gonna use the engine till it quits n then get something else.

i'll be asking u for more feedback on the OS engine after ur race.

good luck and glad u were able to break it in in time!

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 9/29/2007 10:35:53 PM   
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It's not the bearing that's out of whack, just the seal on it and it's normally a sign that you are running a little rich on the bottom.

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 10/1/2007 1:51:59 AM   
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Well, my club season is over. I have to say I was very satisfied with my performance today. I had to use my friends rear shocks since one of mine blew out, leaked, and scored the shock shaft. I did not know what to expect? I qualified second in the B-Main. I had a lot of trouble. Just could not get used to the shocks until the very end of the B-Main. I bumped up to the A-Main (YEAH) and started 10th (last). It was a hard fought battle. The first two minutes of the main were a disaster. I was all over the place, and on my lid a few times. After I settled down I just got to it. I fought my way up to 4th place. Thats my highest finish in buggy class. I was stoked about it. So being in my first year in 1/8th scale buggy, with a modified (Mostly stock except engine and tires) US Sports Inferno Ready set, I would say I did OK. Especially when I see some of the 1200 dollar cars Im racing against. Oh and last thing, The OS .21 V-Spec is AWESOME!!!

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 10/1/2007 2:32:13 AM   
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good to hear u did well with the kyosho i love my car its so fast never had a problem with getting parts at all and i learned never to drive on road for more then 5 minutes with proline crimefighters cause if u do u will wear them out i have a video of yesturday my brother is a very bad camera man

http://s154.photobucket.com/albums/s275/allenthen831/?action=view¤t=MOV01642.flv

hope u like

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RE: Kyosho Inferno Us Sports - 10/1/2007 3:58:51 AM   
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is this just an us sports thread or are kanais allowed here too?

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