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Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/5/2007 3:23:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		Anyone have a building plan with the instruction article that they want to sell or possibly make a copy of them for me. If so I would like to hear from you. Thanks n-brad
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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/5/2007 4:55:55 AM   
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Status: offline 		Mine copies aren't the best quality, but you can build from them. PM me your email address if you want them.

David

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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/5/2007 9:04:33 AM   
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I have a PDF file of the Beachcomber construction article from the May 1963 issue of MAN.

If you, or anyone else, wants a copy just PM me your email address and I will send it as an attachment.

File size is 5.8MB.

Ray

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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/5/2007 11:58:24 PM   
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Status: offline 		Its a messy "old technology" build if you stick to the plans. Lots of balsa, lots of balsa dust! I would update and simplify the building process prior to starting construction as I'm positive you can save a lot of weight during the building process. As with all the good folks above, I too have the plans from MAN, #19A, but RaineDave needs to do his cad thing and simplify the build, hi Dave! I'm still waiting for SPA to commit to a couple of antique pattern contests before I build mine

Good luck in your project! It's a great old pattern ship!

Jon W
SPA 261

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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/6/2007 4:15:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		Jon, that's not a bad idea. It could definitely be updated and simplified quite a bit. Although, I still like the balsa block fuse top. With all the weight you'd save using current hardware and electronics you wouldn't even need to hollow out the top block into a thin shell. A 1" x 4" x 36" soft plank would do fine: build the fuse upside-down on the top block - ala Sun Fli/Kaos - and then rasp it to shape with a Sureform after it's constructed.

The throttle linkage on the plans looks like something designed by Caractacus Potts. You don't need a nose gear brake today, either.

I would go with a simple D-tube wing using one top and bottom spar. The cowl, chin and air scoop would still require some carving.

With those changes it wouldn't be any more involved that building a Super Kaos or Daddy Rabbit.

David

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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/6/2007 12:37:48 PM   
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Status: offline 		There are several VRCS events in Florida each year where the Beachcomber would be an ideal choice for
Class 3 pattern. Spring Hill has one each spring and Dave Platt is now running one in the fall.

Bob Noll has campaigned a Beachcomber for years up north with good results. VRCS "pattern" though is very informal compared to AMA or even SPA events, still the model would get some use

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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/6/2007 1:22:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Do you have a link to the Florida fall event? What club and what date?

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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/6/2007 1:51:54 PM   
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Status: offline 		Beachcomber a complicated build? Hah! It's more like putting a jigsaw puzzle together! Jim never used one piece of balsa where two would do! He was a craftsman and his airplanes were a work of art. Everything was built in saddle jigs and shot with a surveyer's level for absolute accuracy. Any change in the plans to make building for us mortals would be appreciated.
Frank

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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/6/2007 4:19:17 PM   
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ORIGINAL: airbusdrvr

Do you have a link to the Florida fall event? What club and what date?


Here you go, any RC model designed pre-1970 (next year will change to anything designed 35 years ago or older) can fly:

I . R . K . S .

INDIAN RIVER KONTROL SOCIETY

in association with the

VINTAGE RADIO CONTROL SOCIETY

Present their 1st annual

PIONEERS

OF

RADIO CONTROL

At Cocoa Landfill Flying Site

Cocoa, Florida

October 20-21 2007

8am—5pm



Events -- Concours, Match the secret time



Eligibility -- any VRCS-legal model, ie prior to 1-1-1970



(see VRCS website www.vintagercsociety.org for list of eligible models)



Theme model this year --- Lou Andrews “Trainermaster”



Registration $25 at the field. VRCS members $20. AMA required.



CD -- Dave Platt (321) 724-2144 misterscale@cfl.rr.com



Headquarters hotel: Ramada/Super 8 (321-631-1210) on Friday Rd.

Room rate: $52 Lounge & banquet room on site



Directions to hotel: From I-95 N or S – take exit 202 or 203, go W

to Friday Rd. Hotel on E side of street.



Directions to field: From I-95 N or S, take exit 203, go W 1.1m to Adamson Rd., Go N 2.2m to landfill entry gate on L.


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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/6/2007 6:33:31 PM   
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Status: offline 		I wish MAN had copies of the original A6 Intruder Plans. I have prints and computer files thanks to RCU members. Studying the drawings, Jim Kirkland left out very little details. His plans show more detail than the present arf "builders" can grasp. He outlined the hinge locations, push rods, cutouts in the ribs for servos, retracts .... which are missed in most plans. Build up the wing, glass it, than carve out for the servo. What a pain in the arse that can be.

30+ years later his planes live on.
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ORIGINAL: somiss1

Beachcomber a complicated build? Hah! It's more like putting a jigsaw puzzle together! Jim never used one piece of balsa where two would do! He was a craftsman and his airplanes were a work of art. Everything was built in saddle jigs and shot with a surveyer's level for absolute accuracy. Any change in the plans to make building for us mortals would be appreciated.
Frank



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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/6/2007 7:50:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		Jim, I agree that the Intruder plans are more like a building journal than mere drawings (a build thread in two dimensions). I only wish one of the staff tracers had cleaned up some the free-hand lines, lettering, etc. We need archivists who are willing to restore such things.

Now, don't go nominating me, but I have simplified and re-drawn the Beachcomber wing panel in CAD. More to come:

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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/6/2007 8:18:15 PM   
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I wish MAN had copies of the original A6 Intruder Plans. I have prints and computer files thanks to RCU members. Studying the drawings, Jim Kirkland left out very little details. His plans show more detail than the present arf "builders" can grasp


Not only the plans, the actual magazine article runs over two issues of MAN (March & April 1971 - about 15 pages) and contains very comprehensive building, finishing and trimming instructions. Altogether a remarkable piece of work !


Ray

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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/6/2007 11:32:41 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Lotus72D


quote:

ORIGINAL: airbusdrvr

Do you have a link to the Florida fall event? What club and what date?


Here you go, any RC model designed pre-1970 (next year will change to anything designed 35 years ago or older) can fly:

I . R . K . S .

INDIAN RIVER KONTROL SOCIETY

in association with the

VINTAGE RADIO CONTROL SOCIETY

Present their 1st annual

PIONEERS

OF

RADIO CONTROL

At Cocoa Landfill Flying Site

Cocoa, Florida

October 20-21 2007

8am—5pm



Events -- Concours, Match the secret time



Eligibility -- any VRCS-legal model, ie prior to 1-1-1970



(see VRCS website www.vintagercsociety.org for list of eligible models)



Theme model this year --- Lou Andrews “Trainermaster”



Registration $25 at the field. VRCS members $20. AMA required.



CD -- Dave Platt (321) 724-2144 misterscale@cfl.rr.com



Headquarters hotel: Ramada/Super 8 (321-631-1210) on Friday Rd.

Room rate: $52 Lounge & banquet room on site



Directions to hotel: From I-95 N or S – take exit 202 or 203, go W

to Friday Rd. Hotel on E side of street.



Directions to field: From I-95 N or S, take exit 203, go W 1.1m to Adamson Rd., Go N 2.2m to landfill entry gate on L.





I'm running a VR/CS event coming up in October, the 6th and 7th in Oxford, PA. We're flying Class III pattern for the pre 1970 birds. Three rounds on Saturday and fun flying on Sunday. See my thread for information. Bob Noll, Jim Quinn and Terry Terrinoire are coming down from NY. Bob will be flying his Beachcomer.

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RE: Jim Kirkland - Beachcomber - 9/7/2007 12:10:27 AM   
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