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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, G... - 11/1/2007 1:13:36 AM

kenvs

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Ok guys I've been seriously contemplating the purchase of the Vulcan SE and have been vigorously searching for info. The only info that I have been able to find on the web regarding this beastie is this thread. Is this heli an orphan bordering on a Frankensteinesk build or is there a site that actually has upgrade parts for it? Is Xheli and their related sites the only places to buy the Vulcan SE. Are there any reviews that you know of online? Thanks for any info.

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, G... - 11/1/2007 2:18:04 AM

Dale_G

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quote:

Ok guys I've been seriously contemplating the purchase of the Vulcan SE and have been vigorously searching for info. The only info that I have been able to find on the web regarding this beastie is this thread. Is this heli an orphan bordering on a Frankensteinesk build or is there a site that actually has upgrade parts for it? Is Xheli and their related sites the only places to buy the Vulcan SE. Are there any reviews that you know of online? Thanks for any info.

I'd say it's a generic, commodity heli. A clone of many of the 450 size helis. Pretty straight forward build, but there are no instructions, so you need some experience or help. It comes 90% prebuilt but will need going over. Read through the thread. It's a clone of the Trex450, but the tail drive is more like the Dragonus. Don't know why you'd want upgrade parts - the heli is already blinged out with all aluminum anodized parts, but most parts and upgrades that will fit a Trex450V2 should fit this one. Not the frame parts, mind you, but the rotor head and tail rotor parts as well as landing gear, skids, fins.....

Xheli and Raidentech are the only sites that sell the Vulcan450SE version of this heli that I'm aware of. They don't sell the parts unique to this heli - meaning the frame parts. If I were to wreck it, I could see having to buy a new frame of another make and using my remaining parts to reincarnate it as another heli. That's my biggest squawk with this heli. The Pigeon 450 and GL 450 are not quite the same. Close, but not exact.

< Message edited by Dale_G -- 11/1/2007 2:31:00 AM >

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, G... - 11/1/2007 2:19:57 AM

Dale_G

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quote:

ORIGINAL: kuade

Thanks, my heli project is on hold for a couple months because I am out of the country. I wish I could work on it now, but here it is waiting paitently in the box for me. My wife is convinced they are just "toys" I told her to postpone any judgement until it's finished. Do you have any more pictures Dale_G?

Anything in particular you would like to see?

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, G... - 11/1/2007 2:23:27 AM

justin castillo

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hey mate don't worry you well love this heli it is such a beast and plus what upgrade options are left apart from carbon fiber fins?

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, G... - 11/2/2007 10:41:53 PM

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Thank you for the great information already Dale_G, I like the setup on your Vulcan 450SE and I was wondering if you had a closer picture of your motor/ESC. I was thinking about mounting the motor on top and I didn't know how much clearance you have with the motor on the bottom. How is the balance with that big Lipo you have strapped to the front? It would be cool if you had some pictures of your heli in flight.

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, ... - 11/5/2007 10:36:24 PM

TEKoosed

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For some reason I do not see how to upload photos....am I missing something here....when I click on "quote" icon or "image" icon all it does is place the following:

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Do I need to do something else here?

Thanks.

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, ... - 11/5/2007 10:37:48 PM

TEKoosed

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Oppps...got it guys....long day at the sweat shop....

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, ... - 11/5/2007 11:20:11 PM

TEKoosed

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OK guys....I posted the photos in my gallery....too many pixels to upload here and I didn't feel like converting.....

I just bought and received the Exceed RC Eagle 50. I plan on using this bird as my trainer. I believe it will help me get the feel for flying the Vulcan when I get it finished. The Eagle 50 only cost me $107 which included shipping and it comes with EVERYTHING....transmitter, all electronics, and so forth....yeh it is not the best but at least I will feel more comfortable learning on this for a while instead of the Vulcan.

The multi-colored fiberglass canopy I purchased is pictured as well.

Anyway.....so far I have checked all the screws and such on the Vulcan. Over the next week or two I plan on placing the Aligh 430XL motor, the Phoenix 35 ESC, and the receiver and servos which came with the Spectrum DX6. I want to watch more videos before I start though....

Later.

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, ... - 11/6/2007 11:25:16 PM

kuade

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Thanks for the update TEKoosed, did your Vulcan come in that silver color or did you paint it? I looked at your pics and I see you have a lot of work/fun ahead, good luck. If you crash that trainer make sure to post a pic of the destruction. Have you decided on a Gyro yet? I look forward to seeing your progress because I am undergoing the same project in a couple months. Good luck!

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, ... - 11/10/2007 5:08:10 PM

kuade

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Ok, I must add to the list of TRex clones that Dale_G mentioned. The Vulcan 450SE is very similiar to the CopterX 450AE RTF on ehirobo.com the only parts that seem the same is the tail rotor assembly, complete rotor head, and battery tray. Here is a couple of photos to prove it. The CopterX 450AE RTF is $399.00 even a nice aluminum case, I am not endorsing the product because I already have the Vulcan but you have to admit it is not a bad deal. I would buy the combo but... I want a 2.4GHz Tx/Rx not 72MHz and the numerouse other generic parts that I would probably have to replace soon anyway. Plus I like the frame design and cannopy better on the Vulcan. Well I will let you decide...

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, ... - 12/10/2007 6:57:48 PM

bimski

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Hi,
I'm new to this forum, Just got my Vulcan 450se from X-heli.com (live just 15 minutes away from x-heli warehouse) it took only less than 20 hours for me to get the whole box, also got some align 430xl brushless motor, futaba 401gyro combined w/ S9260 tail servo and a set of spectrum 6X , I'm still shopping for a Li-po battery

this forum is really a great help since the Vulcan kit dont come with a set-up guide
maybe we can get some of the expert from x-heli and other store tech pro to drop in (forum) every now and then

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, ... - 12/16/2007 10:16:07 PM

vtxersrule

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Hello all..I have been into Blade CP for a little while and was getting ...comfortable ... with it enough to try a Pigeon 450, it came with a DX6 .. G240 gyro.. 30 amp brushless.. etc.. I cannot figure out the radio setup for anything.. I have tried to read some of the setups with the Trex.. but for some reason.. I think its because the servo are mounted differenty... I cant even get it off the ground!!?? The blades pitch neg. as I give it throttle. I figure maybe one of you that has the Pigeon or Vulcan(which seems to have the servos mounted the same) might not mind helping me out with this so I can get it off the ground any help would be great

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, ... - 12/16/2007 11:16:01 PM

kuade

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rotate all 3 of your servo arms 180 degrees... up is now down..... aka neg pitch is now positive pitch. Look at the pictures of Dale_G setup on page one and look at the servo arms for an example... good luck

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RE: "Unofficial" Vulcan 450SE, Pigeon 450, ... - 12/17/2007 5:02:56 AM

vtxersrule

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I cant quite makeout in the pics but wouldnt that mean turning the servo upside down and THEN turning the arms???

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