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Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/25/2007 6:16:09 AM   
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I almost have my plane finished and was wondering what tips you may have for me before I get it in the air.
Maybe there is a good link somewhere on this site.....Anyone??

I read somewhere before about changing the tires and shimming the retracts to help prevent nose-overs etc.
I'm looking for tips like this.


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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/25/2007 7:15:35 AM   
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personally I don't think shimming the gear is really necessary, I have yet to nose in on my landings with this H-9 plane,plenty with my H-9 P-40.

after you land and are doing your roll out,when the tail is dropping apply a bit of up elevator and the tail will sit down nicely.

I would also recomend a long roll out before taking off, take it easy on the first flights so you get used to flying it,the slow fly of this plane is nice with no bad habbits.
I fly the warbird version but its the same airframe and if you have flown a, tail dragger, sport plane, you should do fine.
I just posted a bunch of information and comments for a fellow MI flyer, who crashed his on the first try, there is also a bunch of info if you do a search really too much to list http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6392308/tm.htm

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/25/2007 1:29:42 PM   
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Yes Put a 3/32 shim on the back of each retrac, it will help for nose over, I have'nt change the tire on my miss america, I don't think it necessary.
paint every part that is susceptible to have gas on it with epoxy, and you can put a piece of fiberglass with epoxy on the center of the wing for reinforcing



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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/25/2007 2:09:33 PM   
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The retracts are crap. I replaced mine with machined ones from http://www.franktiano.com they arent cheap but I had 0 retract problems after I replaced them.

The tires wore out pretty quickly too.

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/27/2007 5:31:31 AM   
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Any advice on any preventative maintence on the retracts?
They seem to lock up/down nicely at the present time.

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/27/2007 7:03:26 AM   
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heat harden the gear leggs to stiffen them, they will be less likely to bend as easy.
heat the wires with a tourch and quench the wires in water it hardens the metal after doing this to bend mine back in place the leggs were significantly harder and have been less inclined to bending.

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/27/2007 10:54:58 AM   
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I have had zero problems with my retracts. They newer version seem to hold up better than the older ones. I do agree though that maybe heat treating them would help stiffen them.

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/27/2007 4:29:47 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: bigtim

heat harden the gear leggs to stiffen them, they will be less likely to bend as easy.
heat the wires with a tourch and quench the wires in water it hardens the metal after doing this to bend mine back in place the leggs were significantly harder and have been less inclined to bending.


Hey bigtim

I would agree once again with you bigtim. I would also do the same but I would quench them in sewing machine oil....The metal gets stiff like this but don't break easily. That is my 2 cents.
Kind Regards
Johnnie Red

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/28/2007 5:02:19 AM   
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thats a great idea cooling with oil, I have heard that water thats too cold will crack and make metal more brittle,I am no metal-urgist,more like a trial and errorist.

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/29/2007 8:49:45 AM   
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How can I make engine adjustments with the cowling on?

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/29/2007 5:40:49 PM   
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here's the way I do it, I take some 256 pushrod and sand the end, so it fits into the end of the needle valve, then I put a90o bend in it to make it easyer to turn when the engine is running,for the low end I usually don't touch it much at all on my 4st engines so I dont make any holes for adjusting it with the cowl on.

the hole to the rear of the needle valve is for my Sullivan remote glow starter,I cut a small hole and re-enforced it with a little bit of extra covering so it wouldn't peel.
on the other side I have a Dubro E-Z fueler that I mounted in the engine compartment.

and one more tip since the cowl on these H-9 planes is pretty thin, I epoxied CA hinge material to the inside of the cowl where the mounting screws are a tip given to me here on RCU, the screw holes were opening up after just a couple of flights since I re-enforced the areas there holding up well.
I should add I also used the,Tony Howard scale exhausts which are screwed and also glued with Goop adhesive after vibrating loose, and they added a little weight to the cowl,but look way better than the H-9 offering,

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 9/29/2007 7:02:06 PM   
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You could also visit http://www.keleo-creations.com if its exhaust looks you seek

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 10/5/2007 11:01:22 PM   
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I have a Saito 100 in it. Anyone experienced tuning them? All my other birds are electric.
I'm familiar with nitro tuning (cars/trucks etc and Zenoah two strokes).

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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 10/6/2007 12:30:38 PM   
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These engine are very easy to tune, juste follow the breakin procedure like the manual, and after the breakin, tune it like the manual said, if i'm right
your suppose tu adjust the hight speed needle first to reach the max rpm and you turn counter clockwise the HSN for lower the 200-300rpm

for the low speed here the copy of the manual and should obtain 1600-1700 rpm :
The low-speed, or idle needle valve
(89), is preadjusted at the factory for
best performance during break-in.
After break-in it may be necessary to
“fine tune” the low speed adjustment
using the following procedure:

Start the engine and let it warm up prior to attempting any adjustments.
Close the throttle slowly and adjust the low speed setting by rotating the
idle needle valve (89) clockwise to lean the mixture and counterclockwise
to richen the mixture.

The fuel mixture is too irch if when openning the throttle rapidly the
engine emits white smoke and “stutters” or “stumbles.” Correct this
by rotating the idle needle valve clockwise 1/4 to 1/2 trun at a time
until the engine transitions smoothly without hesitation upon opening the
throttle rapidly

The fuel mixture may be too lean if the engine stops at the lowest idle position,
or when the throttle is rapidly opened from idle. Attempt to correct this by
rotating the idle needle valve counterclockwise 1/4 to 1/2 turn at a time until
the engine transitions smoothly without hesitation upon opening the throttle
rapidly. If the situation is not rectified by counterclockwise rotations of the
idle needle valve, turn the idle needle valve clockwise in 1/4 to 1/2
turn increments.

After obtaining the proper idle setting, the low rpm setting may be
made through the positioning of the throttle adjustment screw, if applicable.
If not, adjust the idle setting via the throttle trim of your transmitter



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RE: Hangar 9 Miss America - 10/7/2007 5:03:54 AM   
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It seem like it's throwing out alot of fuel.
Is there any way to guage how much is too much?
It leaves a trail on the ground.

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