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Joined: 9/8/2004 From: casa grande,
AZ, USA Status: offline
This is a kit but its also the closest you will get to a scratch built plane. I would like to take a moment and thank everyone that has helped me on this build with advise
Hey old man, the wing airfoil on that Nosen 310 is so generous in it's lift characteristics, that I can just float mine in (36 lbs.) without flaps no problem, but, scale flaps would be cool. Don's Hobby shop sells a nice set of scale fowler flap hinges reasonably priced, that he put on his 29% 310R model. Call him at 785-827-3222. Also, if you like the looks of the 1973 "Q" model 310, it's easy to convert the Nosen over to it by just buying a set of plans from Wendel Hostetler 310 "R" model plans and building his engine nacelles to fit onto the Nosen airfoil. Thats what I am currently doing because I don't like the looks of the 1962"G" model the Nosen 310 was copied after. Go to www.airliners.net and search "Cessna 310" under aircraft type, and just take a look at them. It's not any harder to build it scale. I also flattened the roof line and added the rear window and scaled out the side "vista view" windows. Also , the scale main wheel are 6" dia. but in order to get them to fit, simply spread apart the wing tubes by cutting new holes in the ribs. Stock,,,you can only fit a 4" tire in there and it looks funny. I glued my wing panals onto the wing center section and it made a huge difference in the aileron response. Just my 2 cents.....Rick
Posts: 79
Joined: 11/3/2007 From: , FL, USA Status: offline
well this is my first time on one this size.. built a senior telemaster.. but not quite as big as this one.. Think this is going to be a all summer project for me.. Putting in 25cc weed eater engines.. Have had one person tell me to counter rotate right engine and other say not too.. Still up in the air about that. I don't know if ill ever use the flaps, but they will help to make it more scale.. and already have the 6 inch wheels. now getting retracts. Going to have a ton of money in this one.. Wife asked me why i just don't buy the full size one. I have some time in a real 310. now at the age that i fly models more then the real thing.. My wife says i have enought war birds to start a war with. lol. i may do a build on this one.. Lots of changes im making in it.
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Joined: 11/29/2004 From: Iowa City,
IA, USA Status: offline
I do not want to be the bearer of bad news but i have three of theese and you will not get it to fly with 25cc chainsaw motors. I tried the 25cc motors and it ran 700 ft down the grass runway and only the nose wheel came off the ground. do your self a favor and put 38 or 40cc motors on it. I have one with 40cc motors with three blade props which flies well.2 has a pair of ys 120's on it and it also flies well.3 has os 1.08 on it and is a rocket ship. as you can see i have tried a variety of motors and the os 1.08 is the best fit but the draw back is that they are glow engines. the 40cc motors fly it great but you have to go to 3 blade props because of ground clearence. good luck let me know if i can answer any questions.
Allen is right, weedeaters is fer eatin weeds....I don't know what your budget is for this project, but, I do know that cheap unreliable engines will eventually cause you to have to start all over.........think about that old man.....I have never had a G-26 quit. Guys say, go with gas cause they are so reliable, but remember, their only as reliable as the guy tweekin the needles.....Read my previous post's, and please concider going with my advise. I think it will end up as close to scale as possible. Call Brad at Stans Fibertech and order the cowls for the HostetlerCessna 310R, get Dave Brown Products 4" dia. ultimate spinners, and APC 17-8 props hanging on Zenoah G-26's. You'll end up happier....and thats exactly where you need to be at your age........in a few days I will post some pics of the retract rail re-enforcement bridges I made. Rick
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Joined: 4/12/2007 From: Cedar Rapids,
IA, USA Status: offline
Speaking of retracts, I must have done something wrong way back when I decided to add the Robarts instead of using the supplied gear to my Nosen 310. My problem, well, I don't think it's a problem anyway, but my wheels will not fit entirely up into the cavity. When I built the mounting rails for the mains I sunk them as deeply as I could. Like I said, I don't think this is a problem, but the wheels do protrude below the wing surface just a little. Just wondering if anyone has some pics as to how they stepped around this possible problem. If I rebuild the "spare" Nosen that's overhead in the garage, I would make some changes in this area. Jim
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