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Nosen Cessna 310 - 9/25/2007 9:35:44 PM   
vmeek


 

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Status: offline 		Ive read alot of post on using gas engines for the power source for the 310.

If anyone is using the g23 or g26 size engines please send me pictures of how you mounted the engines.

I cant see how they can be mounted without the carb sticking out the top on a sideways mount or with the jugs hanging out the botom.

So here is your chance to post those pictures to brag about the best looking twin that I feel has ever been built.
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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/11/2007 1:53:33 PM   
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Status: offline 		I will try and post a pick of how I have them mounted....You are correct in the fact that one way or another the engine will hang out the top or bottom. I have a set of G-23's in mine (mounted upside down) with the jug hanging out the bottom.

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/14/2007 5:42:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK I will be waiting to see your plane

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/15/2007 6:32:54 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi Guys, I have inverted G-26's on mine and it flys just fantastic. I use APC 17-8, turning 8600 rpms with Abel mufflers. Weighs 36lbs. I have NO lead in the nose and the CG is exactly 6" behind the leading edge. Best flying plane I own!! Use a twin sync and beef up the area between the retract rails and the underside of the nacelles for more support !! Rick

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/17/2007 2:49:59 AM   
vmeek


 

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Status: offline 		Would it be possible to see a few pictures of your plane?
How and where did you mount your wing servos?
Did you build your wing as a 3 piece as with the plans?
Im trying something I thought up from the old Byrons jets.
Using a aluminum bar and slide to make a 2 piece wing.
I can take photos if anyone wants to take a look but you need to let me know asap cause I am going to start building the wing in a day or so and the parts will be buried in the wing.

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/17/2007 4:11:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hello, this is the only pic I have of it, sorry. I glued my wing panals together and it made it alot more stable flyer. If you can possibly haul it to the field as one piece, do it. With the dihedral envolved,,,I am not sure how secure the connection can be as a 2 piece wing. Also configure your spar posistions in the wing using the scale 6" dia. main tire. The plans only allow for a 4" dia. tire. Mine was already built when I bought it, so I had to cutout some material and then re-enforce it just to use 5" tires. I changed the roof line to the 1973 "Q" model, and added the rear and vista side windows. I really like the way it looks compared to the funky "G" model the plans are drawn from. Go to www.airliners.net and search "Cessna 310" and you will see 500 pics of the 310 from all angles. Its my main sorce of documentation. I skined the underside of the nacelle sheeting with 1/16" basswood epoxied in directly under the retract rails to secure a solid foundation for the 1/4" thick hardwood bridges that will support the bottom of the retract rails. As designed per plans,,,its a very weak area and I have seen several others break the rail mounting as I did before the re-enforcment. The wing servos are mounted in the wing directly ahead of the control horn with a short 4-40 pushrod with the servo shaft pointing towards the ground. Only the servo arm will be exposed. You will need acess to the servo so dont hide it. Use some 3/8" sq. hardwood stock to mount your aleron servos. You can use a wing spar and a wing rib to epoxy the stock to in conjunction with the wing sheeting. Use some aleron differential= more up throw than down throw. Down throw adds drag to the high wing, which you dont want when trying to bank. My plane banked soo much better after adding differential. My plane has exactly one half degree of positive wing incidence with the stab at "ZERO". Wing incidence was measured just outboard of the nacelles. Flys great ! Dont fly this plane without a twin sync ! Its got a ton and a half of drag on the dead engine side when you loose an engine!!= BAD..With a twin sync,,,the plane just slows down with the wings level= very nice. I personally would not want engines smaller than G-26's to fly this plane. Rick Simmons Zenoah engine beta tester for the twin sync.

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/17/2007 4:52:52 AM   
2engsout


 

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Status: offline 		Hi again, since your just starting your project, look at the Cessna 310's on airliners.net and make sure which version of the 310 turns you on, cause its gonna be a long project. You may want to consider building the later "R" version (1975 thru 1980). Fiberglass Specialties sell glass cowls, tip tanks and nacells for the Wendell Hostetler Cessna 310"R" that can be fitted to the Nosen 310 to convert it to the later versions. Call Brad at 479-359-2429. The glass parts are scaled for the later versions of the 310 and will save you a bunch of work. About 1971 thru 1980 models. You could even get the glass "long" nose piece to build the 1975 "R" model which was a much better looking plane in my opinion. I will eventually add the longer nose piece to mine. I am currently building a Cessna 414. I will post a pic maybe next week of the fuse in primer. Rick

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/17/2007 5:03:40 AM   
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Status: offline 		ok thanks for the info I will start to post my pics

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/17/2007 5:09:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Hi VMEEK, let me clarify the retract re-enforcement procedure. I epoxied 1/16 thick basswood sheeting about 4" wide to the inside of the nacelle sheeting. 30 minute epoxy here. It exstended 3" ahead of the front rail and about 3" behind the rear rail to base a large area solid foundation to glue 1/4" thick hardwood bridges under EACH retract rail for support. This is done after the retract rails are glued into the stock location as per plans. Simply make a cardstock pattern of the proper size to fill this void. If I were to build one from the start, I would definatly follow the recomendations above for a great looking 310 !! Hope this helps. Rick

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/17/2007 5:20:57 AM   
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Status: offline 		Vmeek, if you look at my pic above, you will see a little black hole on the right side of the cowl. This is where the stock black plastic velocity stack exstends to meet the cowl. Its flush and is hardly noticable. This will help answer your question about inverting the G-26's. P.S. I have never had a G-26 quit on me. But plan on using a twin sync anyway, its insurance !! Rick

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/18/2007 2:53:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK here go's
If anyone wants to comment on what they see plese feel free.
Any idea will be welcome during the build so it can be incorporated into the build.

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/18/2007 2:59:51 AM   
vmeek


 

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Status: offline 		Where can I find info on the twin sync unit?

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/18/2007 3:56:25 AM   
2engsout


 

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Status: offline 		Vmeek, you can download the manual from www.rcshowcase.com I think its in the accesory link. Its not too late to re-shape that roofline if you want to bring it up to a later model version. Rick

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RE: Nosen Cessna 310 - 10/18/2007 4:38:49 AM