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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/19/2008 3:10:17 AM   
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Thats a tough one Jim,No military So much for the Hangar 9 or Top Flite ARF B-25 Mitchell ... both handle well for a twin. Well If you can avoid excess epoxy and use super light contest grade balsa a plans built Lockheed model 110 E


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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/19/2008 3:16:29 AM   
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All right been thinking would will build this That is the plane,which has long fascinated me, another the Boeing 247

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/19/2008 2:41:27 PM   
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A friend is considering the 247. An excellent project, for sure.

Not sure what my first twin project will be, but I sure like the looks of the He-111.

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/19/2008 3:41:00 PM   
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Guys,
I'm really liking the "Flying Boxcar" which was used in military & Civilian. Rule # 1 "No Arf's" takes all the fun out of it for me. C-119 is available in kit form, and scale retracts are available as well.

As for the epoxy, the photo looks worse than it is "Rubber doesn't stick to good to the styrene using Medium CA, so I put glass cloth in there and placed epoxy over that" I do and try to keep the weight down in some area's. Although I don't weight all my balsa and look for lighter sheets, when going to the hobby store, I'm not that good.

Anyway, as stated above, I'm liking that "Flying Boxcar" , especially for the fact that I've not seen any around, and it's a different looking plane. Twin engines, twin tail boom's.......so ugly it's beautiful.....place a functioning loading door in the back with a retract re-tro fit to work the door up and down.

All I'm seeing is possibilities and load's of fun, working out the details and making it work. Now how does it fly?????? That's the real question....

Jim

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/19/2008 8:31:01 PM   
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Just messing with you after all I'm out of striking range LOL

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/19/2008 8:33:51 PM   
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Guys,
I'm really liking the "Flying Boxcar" which was used in military & Civilian. Rule # 1 "No Arf's" takes all the fun out of it for me. C-119 is available in kit form, and scale retracts are available as well.

As for the epoxy, the photo looks worse than it is "Rubber doesn't stick to good to the styrene using Medium CA, so I put glass cloth in there and placed epoxy over that" I do and try to keep the weight down in some area's. Although I don't weight all my balsa and look for lighter sheets, when going to the hobby store, I'm not that good.

Anyway, as stated above, I'm liking that "Flying Boxcar" , especially for the fact that I've not seen any around, and it's a different looking plane. Twin engines, twin tail boom's.......so ugly it's beautiful.....place a functioning loading door in the back with a retract re-tro fit to work the door up and down.

All I'm seeing is possibilities and load's of fun, working out the details and making it work. Now how does it fly?????? That's the real question....

Jim

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I'm really liking the "Flying Boxcar" which was used in military & Civilian. Rule # 1 "No Arf's" takes all the fun out of it for me.[/quoteTell me about it went to our club meeting last night and there sat a polished Hangar 9 Spitfire one mans beauty is another's

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/19/2008 9:24:56 PM   
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I can take it.........what else you got.....LOL

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/20/2008 3:01:44 PM   
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Did some work on the right fairing last night, I've got some photo's I was going to post of Progress, but my camera is being stupid. Anyhow went to Wal-mart last night and bought some White Monaghide, and some fabric glue. I'm thinking I'll do a wayne's coating like, inside the cabin area with stain on the top (around the windows) and white Monaghide on the interior door panels, and walls.

Have went back several pages in this thread I seen were someone had used the monaghide, and wasn't impressed with the results, so I'll try myself. The fabric glue says it is very tacy while wet, so I should be able to cut the pieces to fit and see the if glue will hold in place to dry. If not we might have to do a couple of modifications. Still haven't decided on a floor covering, but I'll head to Hobby Lobby later this week and look at different doll house carpet.

So if I'm invisioning this correctly, I'll have a red exterior with white trim. On the interior I'll have stained top (around the windows), with white leather from there down, black leather seats, and maybe a deep red shag type carpet. Things might change on the interior as they start coming together.

Still doing some research on the C-119, and found and interesting modification (photo listed). My problem is I can't find anyone out there who has built this kit, or has one flying. I'm wondering how this kit-plane would fly? Any suggestions rich?

Jim

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/20/2008 6:27:44 PM   
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I have not even started my interior;I find the carpeting idea interesting ,you are lucky to have a Hobby Lobby nearby-


Right now got an order in for 3"L 8x32 and 3" 10x32 bolts for the engine install ;spent an hour at my local hardware store and found no bolts suitable for my Stinson

Been finishing up a vintage pattern ship called the Tiger Tail IV,the 'experation date arrived on the first one several years back and in between other projects managed to FIND another Cajun R/C glass and foam kit,from a swell member of the Senior Pattern Association S.P.A. I have been doing a thread,called plans or kit Tiger Tail IV here at r/c universe.com under (classic pattern) check it out

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/20/2008 10:50:15 PM   
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Living 23 Miles from St. Louis, we have every store they ever created, and then some. I'm not a big city fan, and prefer small towns, but "Home is where the Air Force sends us".

What do you think about the C-119?? Think it would be a bear to handle? I can't find anything online about a Palmer C-119.

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/20/2008 11:12:10 PM   
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Well Jim,Palmer plans is all I know of it being in R/C form. The real aircraft had to be stable ,you have twin booms giving more control over 'P' factor .However don't try the single boom modification version like Paul Mantz attempted to fly AFTER the Flight of the Phoenix movie was filmed...

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/21/2008 1:40:37 AM   
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That's what makes me want to do this plane, as I've not seen it anywere else. From looking on-line at "Flying boxcars" the possibilities seem almost endless with the things you could do.

However, I'd hate to invest too much in a plane that doesn't fly worth #$%#. Normally you can find a review, or a building thread on planes and kinda get a picture of problems you might incounter, or be forwarned of worthless planes.

Any how, any progress on the Stinson?? I'm working an issue on the door windows, in which I made the opening a little to big to be able to get my plastic windows in there with enough of a lip for them not to fall out the other side. I was planning on leaving about 1/8 lip around the window openings for the clear plastic to glue too, then put some kind of wood trim on the inside of the frame, to help hold them in place after the covering was put on. Of course once I adjusted the size of the door window frames, now I've gotta re adjust the rear window frames so they match.

Got the other rubber boot on tonight, just waiting for the epoxy to dry, ensuring it's secured. (Won't be posting any photo's of the epoxy, lesson learned)
Gotta keep on.....Jim

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/21/2008 1:41:51 AM   
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Well Jim,Palmer plans is all I know of it being in R/C form. The real aircraft had to be stable ,you have twin booms giving more control over 'P' factor .However don't try the single boom modification version like Paul Mantz attempted to fly AFTER the Flight of the Phoenix movie was filmed...



Yeah, it didn't work out to good for Mr Mantz, did it? I won't be attempting that modification.

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/21/2008 1:49:43 AM   
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Richard, If your LHS carries more thanm RC stuff, see if they have a doll house department. Lots of good RC stuff there, including carpet. They may also carry things like miniature magazines and newspapers. I placed them in the pockets on my Stinsons seat backs.

You don't need a Hooby Lobby, just a well rounded LHS.

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 3/21/2008 3:05:23 AM   
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Well both rubber boots are on, still need triming. You can see in the photo I left a good size gap at least 1/4 -3/8 inch. You can also see were I added back to the door window seal, and now need to add to the rear window, so they even out.

It's a work in progress but I'm getting there slowly.....

Jim

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