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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/9/2007 10:10:22 PM   
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Ok,, update. First day flights successful.

Ailerons very soft at reco settings. Can't aileron roll due to too slow.
Flaps work well but have very slight pitch up. 2 clicks of down trim neutralized it,, Mix next flights
Ail to rud mix 3/8 " total deflection is about right. This Mix really helps flying with flaps down in turns.
Saito 1.8 a good power fit. Flies well but not overpowered.
Plane heavy,, didn't weigh it.
Landings are POC,, one wheel touch downs are possible but tip over to nose is easy.
My wheels did not rotate easily and the wheel pants only allow 3/4" clearance and on grass this is like landing with brakes.
Guaranteed tip over.
Wing strut blind nut is now loose inside wing. DuH? Epoxy them in place or put small ply over the blind nut so it can't come loose.
Flew with left strut load bearing attached and right for show. Did no loops , rolls , spins or any other stress.
16oz tank not big enough. 8 minutes air time landed empty. No reserve. Use 20+ oz tank for saito.
Prop 16x8 classic MAS looks good but not very efficient. waste fuel
Wing attach bolts use 1 1/2" so your hand will fit. 1" will not be long enough and make sure the blind nut is locked and a good one easy to cross thread.

Landing gear did not break off even with wheels not turning freely. But will have wheels fixed on next flight.
I do have a movie of first take off.

Ya'll have fun the bird does fly and very scale with all the wow scale appeal. Jim

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/9/2007 10:20:06 PM   
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Fast Richard, I keep aiming to ask you what engine are you planning on droping in yours?

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/9/2007 10:27:37 PM   
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Were's the movie? I'm ready to view it. Nice looking bird. Now I'm really ready to get this Right wing done.

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/9/2007 11:08:16 PM   
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For those who would like to see the movie,, It is quick time and not supported on the forum. PM your email and I will email it to you. You must have HS inet and quicktime. If you don't have qt it is a free download,, just do a search. Jim

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/10/2007 2:59:57 AM   
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Epoxy them in place or put small ply over the blind nut so it can't come loose.[/quoteHummmmm anticipated that and will do so-Congrats on your maiden flight of your beautiful Reliant
about to send you a PM"of course I want to see the flight video. One of our club officers has been flying a beauty of a Stinson and I keep missing the flights;more time at the field and less at the bench would solve that I think

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/10/2007 3:10:16 AM   
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Hi jaaron01 For an engine would like a 4/C perhaps the new O.S.200 (fuel consumption is an issue though )
I noticed an ad in the latest issue of M.A.N. magazine advertising a NEW Satio 220 I think it was and its a gas burner it sips fuel so states the manufacturer and thats believable. Well dependent on weather will get along on the wing construction;as I plan to start the fuselage before 07 comes to an end.

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/10/2007 3:44:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: jaaron01

I will be curious to see how that works out for you ( not removing from the building board ). How will you sand the bottom Aileron/Flap Ribs down for the 1/16 cap strips? Keep us posted. As for not responding sooner, I know how that goes, no worries.

I've got the ribs for the Right wing glued together and now I need to fit each of them to the main spar ( sand the angle on them ).

Jim



I WAS TOTALLY WRONG----------> currently adding the cap strips to the ribs and "THEN" will remove wing from the building board,'per instructions-'

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/10/2007 5:04:21 PM   
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Ok,, wheel pants were trimmed from the bottom hopefully will allow better takeoffs on grass. Looking for bigger fuel tank,, 20+ oz would be better size.


Also the farings for the landing gear are held on with small screws. I was tempted to glue it but did not. The small screws don't hold well in the thin sheeting so I put glue on each screw and lightly tightened. Working well.


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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/10/2007 5:50:41 PM   
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For the fairings, I know you're given the option of using Glue or Screws however. In that past when dealing with thin sheeting I've been known to go ahead and put the screws in so I have a pilot hole. Then remove the fairing and use Sullivan Ny-rod (yellow color with splines) and cut like 1/8 - 3/16 pieces and insert with glue into the holes (they'll need enlarging somewhat). Once they are glued in and sanded smooth, your screws will have more to bite into, and should hold much better.

Has worked for me in the past.

Jim

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/10/2007 5:54:27 PM   
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Fast Richard,

Were's those Ailerons & Flaps? Just kidding. I know I'm not looking forward to building them again on the Right Wing. I went ahead and epoxied my joiner box pieces together, now I'm waiting on the epoxy to dry. I'm so tempted to go ahead and start putting Former pieces together for the fuselage, I can't hardly stand it. Like a kid at christmas!!!!!

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/10/2007 6:11:38 PM   
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Jim :the wheel pants thing is interesting;what tires are you using ? BTW thanks for the video,I'm working on uploading it

jaaronO1: thanks for posting the infomation on the wing strut attachment,should be helpful- and YES waiting to build the fuselage IS like being a kid waiting for Christmas

Completed the rib cap strips and will remove wing from board a bit later.

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/10/2007 6:31:51 PM   
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The wheels are 5" Dubro.

The wheel pants cut are shown in the attached photo. Gives 1 1/ 2" of ground clearnace.

I also shopped for larger tank. Dubro has 24 oz tank I will locate to replace the 16 oz. Jim

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/11/2007 5:04:16 PM   
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Hi Jim:
I just caught up with this thread and I must say you covered things very well. This will be a big help in finishing mine. As I read the thread I was wondering if the 150 would be enough for this bird. The 220 would be a great motor for the plane and I will need to read up on the ups and down on the motor. Here is the scheme

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RE: 07 TopFlite Stinson build - 11/12/2007 12:51:16 AM   
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Whotheman: I'm sure a 150 will pull it just fine, as long as you don't go overboard on the weight.

Fast Richard: While the epoxy is drying on by Right Wing joiner box, I started thinking about my lighting system. I'm putting in retractable landing lights in both wings, along with the standard lighting system. I'm already working on the fixture for the Left wing so I'll get some pictures up later. However there's going to be a lot of connections to be made once everything is installed in the wing, when hooking this thing up at the flying field. I stumbled upon another guys build, and he has used Computer Terminal ( 9 pin, 10 pin ) connectors for both his wings. All he has to do is bolt on his wings and the connections are made. I've thought about this idea, and it will work!!!! And boy would it cut down on Set-up time, and the chances of getting something hooked up backwards. Check out the photo's below, and tell me what you think?

Jim

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