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RE: .........&qu... - 5/7/2008 6:38:38 PM   
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I leveled my swashplate recently - pretty straightforward in taking the head off. However, when I try to take off, the helo sharply pitches to the left (I'm behind the helo), even before I take off! I have no problem with power - it lifts off at just above mid-stick, so I know the pitch of my blades are okay. Anyone know what could be the problem? I went back to "guesstimating" my swash, tested my helo, and it does not tilt at all. My flight characteristics suffera little because the helo tends to lean to the right once I get two feet off the ground - I guess it's overcompensating for my swash set-up. Also, about to upgrade to Telebee Zoom headlock gyro. Would the gyro have anything to do with it?

As always, thanks for all of the insight that you provide!

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RE: .........&qu... - 5/8/2008 12:35:59 AM   
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I went and picked up the align esc 35a what is the set up for it ,In what order do the beeps need to go?

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RE: .........&qu... - 5/8/2008 1:32:41 AM   
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First off I know someone who programmed another ESC and it went to full throttle so take the blades off to be safe. You need the motor to be plugged in because that is what makes the beeps.

Move the throttle stick to full throttle to enter programming. Then plug the battery in.

Then when you hear nothing move it to no throttle. The rest of the beeps will happen five times a piece then go to the next menu. I find it helps to know what each menu is ahead of time and where to move the stick too.

When you hear one beep at a time it is for the brake. You want it off so leave the throttle on the bottom.

Next it will beep in a set of two. This is for the timing. With the stock motor move it to half throttle.

Next it will beep in a set of three. This is for battery protection mode. I just leave it at half throttle. As long as you know how long your flights need to be you don't have to worry about this.

Next it will beep in a set of four. This is for the aircraft mode. I leave it at half throttle. This makes it be a helicopter and have soft start.

Next it will beep in a set of five. This is for the throttle response. I leave it at half throttle. That makes it medium response. Then no throttle is slow response and full throttle is fast response.

That is it. Then unplug the battery.

I hope that helped. If you want me to go in more detail with the menus just let me know. I find this setup works well for me.

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RE: .........&q... - 5/8/2008 1:48:56 AM   
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You the man, thanks for all your help, if I need more help I will ask. thanks again.

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RE: .........&q... - 5/8/2008 2:26:13 AM   
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Your welcome.

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RE: .........&q... - 5/8/2008 12:53:32 PM   
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Good Morning All:
I just up graded from a Falcon-40 to a Belt CP with a DX6i TX/RX it should all be here today. I am broke again. seem like this addiction is not curable so you have to feed it smaall parts at a time to keep it under control. I plan to continue to fly the Falcon to learn on and improve side and nose in flight then translate it to the Belt. Hopefully this will keep the parts deamon at bay. Or at leat cheaper to feed.
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RE: .........&q... - 5/8/2008 3:58:44 PM   
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Hey heli pilots of belt cp found a complete metal upgrade head,swash plate and tail assembly for $62.00 inculding shipping its coming from Hong Kong I 'll post results and picks when it gets her found it on ebay

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RE: .........&qu... - 5/8/2008 4:06:22 PM   
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A level swash will have a tendency to move left based on the tail thrust (pushing the helo that direction) and the torque of the mains. If the mains spun the other direction, it would slide or move to the right. You can trim it slightly right or teach yourself that upon lift off, you will need to hold slight right cyclic(recommended). It will eventually become second nature and once airborne the tilting should cease. All helos do this on lift off. (slide/bank left) If this effect concerns you, then you need to get some trainer gear until youhave mastered the "straight" take-off and gentle landing.

Now if your CG is off(tilting forward or backward with a level swash and centered trims), then that is another issue that needs to be resolved first, but a level swash is needed to ensure CCPM moves straight up and not canted to one side on collective inputs like flaring in an approach. Also, retreating blade stall at FFF speeds will cause the helo to bank right due the forward moving blade is travelling faster then the retreating blade causing more lift on one side. Some higher end radios allow mixing to counter this effect and is usaully switch activated. They will turn it on in FFF and turn it off when coming in for a hover or landing.

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RE: .........&q... - 5/8/2008 10:27:19 PM   
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Thanks, Chris. I just installed a Telebee Zoom HH Gyro - gave it a small test, and it was working like it was suppose to do. However, when I put my blades on and tried to fly, the servo won't do a thing, not even in HH mode. Did the gyro go out that quick? So, I disonnected the motor, turned on the tx, hooked it up again, and nothing . THe light on the gyro is on (blue), and I even tried the set it on the platform different ways (label to the left, label to the right, label facing the rear), but nothing. I hate to take it apart and put my rate gyro back in, but any suggestions???

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RE: .........&q... - 5/9/2008 3:48:24 AM   
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I just set up my algin esc for the belt this is what i have 1 beep,2beeps,1beep,2beeps,3beeps will that work

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RE: .........&q... - 5/9/2008 4:33:56 AM   
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Yeah that will work just fine.

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RE: .........&q... - 5/9/2008 5:50:07 AM   
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Thanks again you rock

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RE: .........&q... - 5/9/2008 12:30:51 PM   
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Take your gyro lead off the receiver and just run your servo with no gyro and see if it responds. Also, my EFlite G90(Telebee/Align look-a-like) has a digital setting to run digi servos. Make sure that is set in analog if still running stock servos. Not sure if the telebee has that switch. If the servo works just plugged directly in the receiver, then the gyro is not responding or not arming. Make sure your trim is centered as well, authough that is not necessary with my G90 it may be with the telebee. What radio are you using? Most HH won't funtion if the transmitter has the Revo mixing enabled.

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RE: .........&q... - 5/9/2008 7:42:10 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Fly To Chill

Thanks again you rock


Your welcome. I am glad to help fellow RC helicopter pilots out.

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RE: .........&q... - 5/9/2008 10:20:51 PM   
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It was my servo - went and purchased one from the local hobby shop (Eflite Servo) for $17.00 and it works great!! Now, I can't get operate the gyro in HH mode - the tail spins erractically to the left. When I go back to rate mode, everything is smooth. I'll check the Revo mixing as you mentioned and see if that's the problem. By the way, how can I check the revo mixing???

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RE: .........&q... - 5/10/2008 12:39:30 AM