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RE: .........&... - 5/18/2008 10:16:50 PM   
cjennjr


 

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Status: offline 		That's exactly what I did - I even printed a copy from this website and used it along with the instructions that came with the esc. How long does it suppose to initially beep? 1 minute, 2 minutes, 5 minutes???

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RE: ............ - 5/19/2008 12:05:56 AM   
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Status: offline 		I finally got it programmed - I didn't have the throttle curve switch in the middle. Now, after I set it up, and ran it for a minute, and the helo jumped up to at least 3/4 throttle without me doing anything!!! Freaked me out!!!! I quickly shut it down - I heard some ESC's were doing that on the helos. I know I have to adjust the gyro negatively due to the tail swagging or searching. Any more advice? Sorry for all the questions - I don't want to get it up in the air and lose it!!

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RE: .........&q... - 5/19/2008 1:46:31 AM   
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Telebee HH gyro, how to reduce rudder sensitivity.

I have the belt cp with standard radio, i now put a HH telebee gyro in and as instructed put the mechanical link at the rudder servo onto the hole nearest the main mounting screw. The tail is very sensitive now, how can i reduce it so it's more passive. The slightest movement makes the tail start moving.

thanks

Seb






Have you adjusted the gain on the gyro itself. With stock Tx you have to do it manually. If tail is over sensitive you probably need to turn CCW. Also, if I remember correctly, the gyro switch (top left) switches between rate and HH mode. Hope this is some help.

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RE: .........&... - 5/19/2008 1:52:41 AM   
disney1



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The below link is for US Hobby Supply, the do ship internationally. They also a good selection of Belt CP parts, adn up grades

Gyro:
http://www.ushobbysupply.com/product_info.php?cPath=36&products_id=520&osCsid=932c80692c9654c0b9c804efadc900a2

Belt CP Parts:
http://www.ushobbysupply.com/index.php?cPath=31_38&osCsid=d7c2462fbc8af5584e26371006617640

Have A great Day
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RE: ............ - 5/19/2008 5:25:00 AM   
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ORIGINAL: cjennjr

I finally got it programmed - I didn't have the throttle curve switch in the middle. Now, after I set it up, and ran it for a minute, and the helo jumped up to at least 3/4 throttle without me doing anything!!! Freaked me out!!!! I quickly shut it down - I heard some ESC's were doing that on the helos. I know I have to adjust the gyro negatively due to the tail swagging or searching. Any more advice? Sorry for all the questions - I don't want to get it up in the air and lose it!!


I don't mine the questions. Are you using the stock transmitter or another one? I have never experienced the helicopter powering up with out any input. Was your throttle trim all the way down when you programmed it? It is smart playing it safe. Are you using the govenor or not.

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RE: ............ - 5/19/2008 5:35:16 AM   
cjennjr


 

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Status: offline 		I'm not exactly sure about the trim being all the way down - I think it was. Nevertheless, I tried it again and it ran smoother than before. Also, how do you set up the governor mode?

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RE: ............ - 5/19/2008 6:35:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		I don't use the governor. I was just wondering if that was the problem. It is in the section that you can choose airplane, helicopter with soft start, and helicopter with soft start and governor.

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RE: .........&... - 5/19/2008 2:34:14 PM   
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Status: online 		thanks alot disney for ur help , right know i m getting the belt cp carbon edition kit , 400x motor , charger , telebee gyro , dx6i rx/tx , hitec servos , but i still didnt decided on wat esc should i get , is the stock esky esc good ?? i am ordering from www.ka-planes.com can u recommend me which esc to get my limit is 50$ .

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RE: ............ - 5/19/2008 4:53:53 PM   
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Status: online 		i have found this esc , will this work http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6458

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RE: ............ - 5/20/2008 12:35:15 AM   
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See Post 1484, on page 60 of theis thread re: ESC

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RE: .........&... - 5/20/2008 12:48:50 PM   
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Status: offline 		100+ flight inspection. Hello all, I just did a once over on my Belt CP since it have well over 100 flights and has seen combat in the harsh deserts of Iraq last year. Here is what I have found. Main shaft bearings are worn and need to be replaced. They are of very poor quality and are open faced bearings which let in all the dust and dirt. I will be using higher quality ABEC-3 bearings that are just slightly taller than the ESky bearings.

http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_97&products_id=1474

Next, the tail bearings. High speed application that should be checked at 50 flights. Mine were very worn and I will be upgrading to Ceramic bearings. In Iraq, my friend loved to "Dust off" and within 30 flights his tail case melted because of the dust his bearings ingested and heated up. Luckily he was able to land safely.

http://www.helidirect.com/product_info.php?cPath=95_98&products_id=2131

I would also check the washout bearings. When I removed my plastic one and replaced it with the aluminum one, I noticed the bearings wear very notchy, which is bad. Check those as well. Most of these issues will most likely never be seen while flying/learning, as they happen gradually. My manual says to check the main and tail bearings at 100 flights. I would just upgrade them as the open face is sure to allow premature failure and unwanted vibration. Keep in mind my helo flew just fine with just a slight vibe that concerned me so I went in and inspected. I'm glad I did.

I also jumped into the united Hobbies pool and made a $9 (shipped) order and picked up some great little LiPo tools that are a must have. Plus, it made it here in 11 days. The onboard monitor is amazing, as it watches each cell instead of the whole pack so you can see if one of your cells is weaker than the others and base your flight times at that. The checker lets you check your cells after to see what voltage you are at. You can even mount that to the helo and see how low the cells dip down to the hundreths of as volt. Awesome!


http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=6454

http://www.hobbycity.com/hobbycity/store/uh_viewItem.asp?idProduct=4175

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RE: .........&... - 5/20/2008 1:24:06 PM   
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Status: offline 		Morning Fliers:
Dose anyone know how good the CNC Kit from cnchelicopters is?
Looks like a good deal. Almost too good of a deal.
When I upgrade to CNC I do not want to have to do it twice.

http://www.cnchelicopter.com/servlet/the-1176/Esky-Belt-CP-CNC/Detail

Have A Great Day
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RE: ............ - 5/20/2008 1:32:34 PM   
Fly To Chill


 

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Status: offline 		Thst price is really cheep if it is real esky parts, let me know if you get them i just might get the same set of parts.

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RE: ............ - 5/20/2008 1:38:14 PM   
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