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Posts: 38
Joined: 6/27/2007 From: Sammamish,
WA, USA Status: offline
Hi guys, I just got a Will Hobby FW-190. Was very cheap though, but you get what you pay for. it looks build nicely, I have seen pictures that are nice, but..... Here is my (probably first) question: What kind of retract would or can you put in there. The opening for the retracts is rather small and the gerar is huge. it is 3/16th wide and about 8" long. Does anybody have experience with this, or has anybody build this 190 yet? Any help would be greatly appreciated. I wanted to put a 26cc gas engine in there, but was advised to put a OS 91 in it for reasons of simplicity. So, if anyone has build this, please let me, a somewhat beginner, know what to look out for and what to do.
I have the wills hobby seafury , same deal very cheap purchase but I was happy with the plane overall with the exceptions that I had to bash the wing for retracts .
My suggestions based on the seafury is widen the wells for larger wheels , use either Gear from Shindin machine /Lenny or CJet gear . I made my own carbon fiber pushrods and did not use any of the kits hardware outside of the fuel tank . Also you make want to use that gas engine because these planes build tail heavy
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Joined: 12/13/2001 From: Litchfield Park,
AZ, USA Status: online
I've got a Will's Hobbies 71" Zero that I'm reworking to be more scale. Same situation as the FW-190, fairly large airplane that looks like it was set up for .40 size retracts! I will be tearing out the existing rails and redoing the entire area to accept sturdy enough retracts to do the job. I really don't see any alternative as I can't imagine any retract that would fit the supplied rails would be anywhere near durable enough.
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Joined: 7/16/2003 From: BrisbaneQueensland, AUSTRALIA Status: offline
is it just me,or is it just a repainted CMPro Fw-190?
if so there are a few threads going, including mine which i am half way throught kitbashing it a little, but LDM is right, there are a few souces for retracts like shindin, sierra etc...
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Joined: 2/8/2002 From: Leander,
TX, USA Status: offline
I gutted my cmpro zero's retracts. Like was said 120 sized plane with 40 sized retracts. The pictures show what I did. Havent maidened yet. But they should hold up pretty good. Edwin
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Joined: 2/8/2002 From: Leander,
TX, USA Status: offline
Its built up. Not a bad job from what I saw on the inside. The covering is a frosted thick mylar material. Its painted, and didnt hold paint worth a d@mn. If they could ever get paint to stick to it, it would be nearly impervious. I discovered that rustoleum almond and ultracoat cream nearly a perfect match. Tried to upload a picture but rcu wont let me today. Edwin
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Joined: 6/27/2007 From: Sammamish,
WA, USA Status: offline
Thanks for all the gret info and pics. I could not find anything on the CJ retracts. Shindin and Sierra look very nice, but they mostly refer to the KMP model, which i do not have. i did some more looking last night and found that the Robart airs are small enough to fit into the prefab cut outs. i guess i would have to bend new 3/16" wire to make it fit into what I have to work with. the wires that came with the model are bent in such a way, that if you hold it into the bays in the closeD position, the top part is touching the inside of the top of the wing, it sits very high up in the wing. I have been looking for sth to accomodate this, but have not gotten any further. Has anybody built this Willhobby 190 yet? And maybe has some pictures of it? Ticketec have you put up some pics of your built?
wills and CMP are totally differnat planes and manufactures . YOU can wills hobbys home website on a google search . One thing about is that there ebay seller was one of the worse in the world "newyork grace" he is now gone and most likely hiding under another name . The company is absolully non responsive , I mean virtually dead to nay emails at all so if you need support , parts , questions ect , good luck you are on your own .So if you buy you must buy cheap and live with the outcome , pay more then $149 total and you increase your risk of being unhappy with the work needed
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Joined: 7/16/2003 From: BrisbaneQueensland, AUSTRALIA Status: offline
Hey LDM,
There are a lot of doggy dealers on ebay, and it's not CMPro who sell them on ebay. CMPro manufactures them, and that's different to who sells them. lot's of people/companies rebadge them with their own name, but they do not actually manufacture them. here in Australia, they are actually distributed by a reputable distributor and have fair product support.
when i look at the model pic's posted again, i am almost totally convinced it's one of the earlier versions of the CMPro with the built up wing, or even maybe a copy. but the canopy is exactly the same (incorrect) the tail is shaped the same, rudder etc, things that are pretty hard to get that wrong twice!!!
Not that's there is anything wrong with that. it actually helps knowing what every one else calls it so you can check out the other threads, find spare parts etc...
Thanks
Dave
< Message edited by ticketec -- 10/1/2007 10:14:10 PM >
hey Dave how are you ? I have some good data on the China model scene from just talking and researching on the net . CMP=CHINA Models was originally distributed by Giant Scale planes (Copperstown Pa ) on an exclusive basis , then when his volume dropped based on his poor servace and over shipping cost he lost the exclusive distribution . Now they are distributed by many people from Nitro Rc and about 5 other USA distribtors . THe biggest copy of CMP is FLYMODELS also made in China , same exact moulds and lines but cheaper quality and about $60 less money , you can see the diffrance on the Nitro website . ALSO you can see them on AK models , Alex carries both .
Wills hobbies is the parent company of willshobby , newyork grace was the factory rep for wills .The only company they (wills) was supposed to contract for was Giant SCale planes all new composite line . Its appears that line will never be introduced .
I do think(know for a fact ) that CMP/Wills & Flymodels does produce for some very reputal high end arfs , but as not to battle with so many people on that subject I rather stay out of that discussion
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Joined: 7/2/2002 From: Stone Ridge,
NY, USA Status: offline
Man I heard of stand off scale but that Wurger is like "stand way off in the next county" scale and squint ! But hey if you're happy with it and it flys ok, whatever blows your skirt.
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