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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 2:46 PM   
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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 2:57 PM   
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Status: online 		Paint falls off? I am not liking the sounds of all these problems with the new Elan. I about to start putting mine together. I was expecting an easy to build kit that was well planned out and high quality due to the cost of the kit. I am hoping these problems we are hearing about are just a few "lemons" that got mixed in with the rest.

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 3:04 PM   
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It IS a good kit, looks AWSOME and I have seen the baby and the XL fly, they fly very well and are easy to land..

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 3:11 PM   
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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 3:29 PM   
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you see the first pictures from the elan LG manual..
i hope you like what you see , i think we come a long way since the introdcution of these gears.
this particular one goes after the photoshoot today to "the Stig"



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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:09 PM   
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Paint falls off? I am not liking the sounds of all these problems with the new Elan. I about to start putting mine together. I was expecting an easy to build kit that was well planned out and high quality due to the cost of the kit. I am hoping these problems we are hearing about are just a few "lemons" that got mixed in with the rest.

same issue w/ my XL, but not as bad

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:11 PM   
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Will the servo cover accomodate 8611 servos?

am willing to bet they are same part # as my XL. Covers needed to be trimmed (internally, nothing visible) for 8611s but was no big deal.

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:17 PM   
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here guys
you see the first pictures from the elan LG manual..
i hope you like what you see , i think we come a long way since the introdcution of these gears.
this particular one goes after the photoshoot today to "the Stig"



Ohmigosh that looks AWESOME. Nice install, excellent packaging. Quite a bit different from my disappointing XL experience just a few months ago. Credit where it's due, excellent job!

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:28 PM   
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I do not have the navy version of the Elan.
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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:32 PM   
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The pictures look great!

It also looks like I won't have to "grind" into the new composite fuse retract rails. They do drop in don't they without cutting away at the retract rails?
Thanks,
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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:34 PM   
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You would have thought if they had to same problem with the XL it would have been corrected on the Elan but sounds like it wasn't..

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:41 PM   
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Status: offline 		Awsome, I have a set of these on my FLASH and they are the BEST! no more broken pins with this setup!!

very nice packaging

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		OK synthetic, then your servo covers are white and are not painted ( lucky you) so you have no worries

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:44 PM   
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Good news! Thank You....

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:48 PM   
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digitech,
The pictures look great!

It also looks like I won't have to "grind" into the new composite fuse retract rails. They do drop in don't they without cutting away at the retract rails?
Thanks,
Don


as you can see it is just 5 minutes work for both sides , the jet-1a cylinders cover the space
here is what you must do:


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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 4:51 PM   
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here guys
you see the first pictures from the elan LG manual..
i hope you like what you see , i think we come a long way since the introdcution of these gears.
this particular one goes after the photoshoot today to "the Stig"



Ohmigosh that looks AWESOME. Nice install, excellent packaging. Quite a bit different from my disappointing XL experience just a few months ago. Credit where it's due, excellent job!


thanks!
how is the jet flying these day? (xl)


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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 5:02 PM   
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It looks like just some cutting for the cylinders (which is no problem at all) but I won't have to enlarge the retract rails where the Jet 1A's bolt to correct? In the picture it does not look like any changes are needed to the rails?
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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 5:07 PM   
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digitech,
It looks like just some cutting for the cylinders (which is no problem at all) but I won't have to enlarge the retract rails where the Jet 1A's bolt to correct? In the picture it does not look like any changes are needed to the rails?
Thanks,
Don



no you can even add some uprights between the gear and the rails.
i was thinking to if nessecary to add some uprights of 2mm ply.
and a cover plate to add a sort of a box , there is space for it , but i think its overkill.
the rails look ok enough for me.

also just done the front steering.
i will add some tubing to the set so that the cables cant be catched by the front wheel...

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 5:13 PM   
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Your design looks great!

I have a couple of questions though.

1st) It looks like there is not much deflection (off set) in the struts compared to those in the past. Is this due to the narrow landing gear channel of the Elan or are you desiging them with less off set than in the past?

2nd) The strut looks very close to making contact with the front edge of the retract slot. I realize the force from landings should cause the strut to move towards the rear of the channel which in turn would allow for more space towards the front. What are the chances of the gear binding up against the forward composite channel wall?

Thanks Again,
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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 5:29 PM   
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digitech,
Your design looks great!

I have a couple of questions though.

1st) It looks like there is not much deflection (off set) in the struts compared to those in the past. Is this due to the narrow landing gear channel of the Elan or are you desiging them with less off set than in the past?

2nd) The strut looks very close to making contact with the front edge of the retract slot. I realize the force from landings should cause the strut to move towards the rear of the channel which in turn would allow for more space towards the front. What are the chances of the gear binding up against the forward composite channel wall?

Thanks Again,
Don



1 : no you are right this is a brand new design from Jet-1A , that i wanted to do for some time now.
with the Elan we now had to do it just earlyer..
these have almost no offset.
(more suprises are on the way)

2 : it is close indeed , mine did not touch the front of the tunnel , not even a scratch so dont worry about that..
these where tested BEFORE they where machined..

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 5:34 PM   
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I am glad to see the new concept with hardly no offset. The only drawback I saw to the Jet 1A's was the problem with the offset. Some planes have a former that is right in the way of the collapsed offset and this looks like it will take care of that problem.

Good job designing what actually will work for us.

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 5:39 PM   
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digitech,
I am glad to see the new concept with hardly no offset. The only drawback I saw to the Jet 1A's was the problem with the offset. Some planes have a former that is right in the way of the collapsed offset and this looks like it will take care of that problem.

Good job designing what actually will work for us.

Don



Yes lets hope some w!@%rs wont copy it this time....
we are glad to be of help , as i said we got more suprises this year.


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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 5:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Close but not done yet. It's my first EVERYTHING. 1st jet, 1st brakes, 1st retracts, 1st Powerbox, 1st RRS, on and on.

If I build another one I'm sure I'll finish in 1/4 the time as this one. For now just slow and careful, w/ lots of time on RCU for help.

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 5:44 PM   
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Close but not done yet. It's my first EVERYTHING. 1st jet, 1st brakes, 1st retracts, 1st Powerbox, 1st RRS, on and on.

If I build another one I'm sure I'll finish in 1/4 the time as this one. For now just slow and careful, w/ lots of time on RCU for help.



then a boomerang is just the right thing m it is by far out the most simple to build and fly airframe.
you will have lots of fun with it..

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RE: Elan Has Arrived! - 10/22/2007 5:45 PM   
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What size wheels are supplied? They look awful small compared to the wheel well. I'd expect 2 3/4" (70mm)?

Dave

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