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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 10/19/2007 1:39:20 AM   
Joe Hunt



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ORIGINAL: krayzc-RCU

and we do love to spank the monkey


U had to go there, didn't you? lmao

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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 10/20/2007 3:50:57 AM   
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Joe,

Is this your 1st crack at the DA-85? What prop r u looking to try on it?

Gerald

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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 10/31/2007 2:25:06 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Jaketab

Joe and Monkey,

There is another AW 75cc 260 post started several weeks ago. http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/m_6356561/tm.htm That one is not as detailed as this build thread.

This plane is everything and more it's advertised to be. The plane flies like a champ. My CG was 1/4 inche aft of the 3 inch balance point. I found it to be the best landing plane I've ever flown. And oh ya, the plane hoovered with only a small amount of control input on low rates with my limited ability!

Couple of things to watch out for - there are 6 ply mount tabs that the cowl secures to. Two on each side and 2 on the bottom. All 4 cowl mount tabs on the sides pulled loose which left only the bottom 2 tabs holding the cowl on. I was very lucky that I landed before the front of the cowl made contact with the backplate. I posted some pics of this on the other thread.

Caution!!!! - these tabs appear to be glued only with not enough glue. I suspect there may be other reports soon as these tabs break loose and cause damage to the cowl.
The fix will be easy if you catch this in time. Pull them out if they are loose and reattach with 30 min epoxy.

The only other problem was the JTec muffler leaking on the DA-85. It was a defect from an improper or incomplete weld on the flange. The flange plate on the port side is welded to the muffler. The oil and gas was working it's way between the flange and the muffler and exiting out the bolt tubes. I was able to confirm this by placing a silicone tube into the bolt hole from the port side. I put my finger over the bolt hole tube to seal it from the outside and blew into the tube. You could easily see air mixed with bubbles exiting between the welded flange and the muffler.

It's made a big oil mess on the inside of the cowl. There are 2 of us at my field with the DA-85's and JTEC Pitts. Both are leaking from the bolt hole tubes. JTEC has since repaired the muffler but I have not tested it yet.

So, if this plane heads south, which planes sometimes tend to do, I would buy another to replace it.

Good luck - Jaketab


Great info, Jake, thanks! The JTEC mufflers on my EVO-150 do the same thing, in the same place, big mess!!!! I wonder if they'll fix those, too?

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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 10/31/2007 2:28:45 AM   
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I wanted to try one of the new www.smart-fly.com PowerSystem EQ-6 units on this plane. They are similar to the PowerExpander EQ-10. The unit is an 8-channel unit and channels 2-7 are programmable. Also there is an ignition cutoff, a built in regulator for the servo power, and a failsafe switch. This unit probably fits the bill for a wide range of plane sizes and power needs. These PowerSystems will be on the market very soon... so I talked Smart-Fly into sending me out a prototype to try:


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Thanks Monkey, for displaying the EQ-6 Smart-Fly sent in for me to try:


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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 10/31/2007 2:32:14 AM   
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Monkey said, "Take a look, anyone can see that www.smart-fly.com sent in the PowerSystem for me to test!"


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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 10/31/2007 2:35:10 AM   
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Mounted the included aileron control horns, 8711 servos, pushrods, and the included DUBRO ball joints. There's only the one aileron servo per aileron, so this goes real fast:


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Joe Nolasco direct soldered the extension on for me and also soldered on a Dean's 1003 connector to the end:


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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 10/31/2007 2:36:27 AM   
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Put on half of the vinyl graphics from www.kirbysgraphics.com :


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Found these ZAP stickers in Mark's stuff... they are before my time... totally old school... so had to use them:


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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 10/31/2007 2:38:38 AM   
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So far all we've done is:

* cut out 8oz of wood from the fuse
* start to mount the engine
* mount the aileron servos and linkages
* iron down the covering
* install a few graphics

We gotta get busy. lol

Next we'll do the elevators and finish mounting the engine.

While you're waiting for us to get done... here our some of Monkey's favorite videos:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8avOiTUcD4Y

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1AZn5nWIj_g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a15KgyXBX24

And, one for Monkey:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZYuIYNaKynI



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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 11/15/2007 11:53:49 PM   
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Hey Joe,

How is the Aeroworks 75cc Extra coming? I am anxious to see the rest of your review.

Thanks.

Steve

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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 11/16/2007 1:34:21 AM   
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Hey Joe,

How is the Aeroworks 75cc Extra coming? I am anxious to see the rest of your review.

Thanks.

Steve


Hi Steve! Yeah, I think I only have about 6 hours in it and it's nearly done. Anybody who knows me has to be amazed by that, because I can burn up 6 hours just thinking about how I want to do the throttle, etc. lol The QBs are easy, but this one has really been easy for me, a true QB for me, this time. lol

Right... so anyway... me and Monkey got busy on the elevators::


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We used the stock (included) control horns and stock (included) DUBRO ball joints:


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As with the single servo ailerons, it didn't take long to complete this step:


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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 11/16/2007 1:38:00 AM   
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Monkey was like, "OMG, check out the perfect balance of geometry, leverage, linearity, and resolution!"


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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 11/16/2007 1:40:21 AM   
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Here's the engine bolted on:


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Joe Nolasco installed the blind nuts and notched the corner stock:


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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 11/16/2007 1:43:50 AM   
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Next I glued in the rudder hinges, these are the only hinges you have to glue in. The holes are drilled and the hinges included, though.

I gathered up what I needed to glue them in. 30min Zap Zpoxy. DUBRO reamer. Bamboo skewers from the supermarket (about one tenth the price of same from companies like SIG). Mixing cup:


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I used the skewers to "press" Zpoxy onto the sides of the holes, and popcycle sticks to "press" Zpoxy onto the hinge. I run alot of throw and I've never had a hinge come loose. So, I guess I'll just stick with what I've been doing.. even though I'm sure there are other gluing methods that give solid results.

I use the DUBRO reamer to flare out the ends of the holes a little for the hinge knuckles:


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Don't forget to lube up the hinge knuckles with vaseline or something. Otherwise glue will get in the knuckle and it will not move freely. I've been using this same tube of teflon lube for 6 years and it does a good job:


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RE: Aeroworks 96" Extra 260 ARF QB Assembly - 11/16/2007 1:45:01 AM