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New Forum - 10/17/2007 1:37:07 AM   
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Welcome to the UAV and Drone forum. As you know, this has become an increasingly popular advancement lead by the r/c industry. If you have a particular fondness for this sort of flying, this is your place to post. Enjoy.

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RE: New Forum - 10/18/2007 12:18:41 AM   
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Now ya done it. Do you have any idea how much trouble all those are going to go through trying to say something without saying anything that won't bust their butts and their security agreements?

This should be a real interesting forum, especially for those that are into aerial video and remote navigation. Kudos to those that add useful ideas, fatcs, and other input but don't violate ITAR export regulations.

In the meantime I would love to see someone build and fly a scale model of a Scan Eagle. Someday I'll get to find out just what she can do in aerobatics

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RE: New Forum - 10/18/2007 2:40:31 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nathan

Welcome to the UAV and Drone forum. As you know, this has become an increasingly popular advancement lead by the r/c industry. If you have a particular fondness for this sort of flying, this is your place to post. Enjoy.


It's definitely become increasingly illegal in the USA.

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RE: New Forum - 10/18/2007 3:00:46 AM   
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you know who makes a good uav? hobby lobby . it comes with a digital camera for only $150.00 camera takes up to 25 pictures and even comes with the cables to download the photos. Ready To Fly. comes with everything. im going to get one just to play around. i saw one fly at a field and man was it cool. check it out at hobby lobby. santa''s coming you know.

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RE: New Forum - 10/18/2007 6:53:02 AM   
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I saw one that crashed in a forward deployed location. It was in a lot of small pieces. But that is all I can say.
Secret Squirel Hand Shake kind of stuff.

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RE: New Forum - 10/18/2007 1:38:38 PM   
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Yeah they are cool machines thats for sure. This should be interestingthats for sure. I got a chance to spend some times with the Air Force Predators while deployed. They are a R/C guys dream machine!

edit: Just went and did some searching and found another really cool Predator Model.
http://www.trendtimes.com/rc-predator-airplane-drone.html

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RE: New Forum - 10/18/2007 4:17:30 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Nathan

Welcome to the UAV and Drone forum. As you know, this has become an increasingly popular advancement lead by the r/c industry. If you have a particular fondness for this sort of flying, this is your place to post. Enjoy.


It's definitely become increasingly illegal in the USA.


Just to be correct, its not exactly "illegal" in the US, its just against FAA policy (http://www.eoss.org/faa/AFS_400_UAS_POLICY_05_01.pdf). The FAA is currently stopping unauthorized UAS (unmanned aerial systems - their new term for them) activity when they find out about it, but the major reason isn't security, its pilot's organizations not wanting unmanned aricraft in their airspace without the proper safety considerations.

The FAA is currently working on a set of regulations for "small" UAS that will allow their operations with less restrictions than are now in place. We are working on a proposal to the FAA for a series of data-gathering operations in support of that rule making process.

You can operate a UAS for R&D purposes, you just have to find the proper, authorized, locations to do it. We are working on a number of different systems for various applications...

Bob

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RE: New Forum - 10/18/2007 6:29:59 PM   
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This is really cool stuff.

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RE: New Forum - 10/18/2007 7:32:04 PM   
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Here's some stuff I worked on, a while back...

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RE: New Forum - 10/18/2007 10:19:18 PM   
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. We are working on a number of different systems for various applications...

Bob


Bob, How can you call that cool stuff WORK .

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RE: New Forum - 10/19/2007 11:06:41 AM   
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Cool. I've always had an interest in these things. I'll be keeping a close eye on this forum.

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RE: New Forum - 10/24/2007 6:17:13 AM   
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I remember seeing that at superman one year, pretty cool looking bird. All in time I think the FAA will have to allow them in open airspace of course with their own limits, just so many things they can be used for.


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RE: New Forum - 10/29/2007 2:11:05 AM   
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Rhklenke,

"You can operate a UAS for R&D purposes, you just have to find the proper, authorized, locations to do it. We are working on a number of different systems for various applications..."

Bob, your statement is certainly of great interest. If you are "VCU"........#1, #2 and the Super Falcon/Bob Cat looking one are all part of your
"Stable" so to speak, I would like to know more. I look forward to your reply.

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RE: New Forum - 10/30/2007 6:14:34 PM   
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Well, lets see. We started about 5 years ago doing some electronics design work for a researcher at NASA Langley. We built a board that fit into a PC-104 stack that could generate PWM signals for up to 32 servos to control a "morphing wing" areodynamic test vehicle. The researcher we were doing this for suggested that my students get involved in the AUVSI Student UAV Competition (http://uav.navair.navy.mil/seafarers/default.htm) - I'm a faculty member in computer engineering at Virginia Commonwealth University in Richmond, VA.

We went to the competition for the first time in 2003. The competition allows the use of commercial autopilots (most teams use Micropilot units which Micropilot will actually donate to the univeristy team), but since we're computer engineers, I decided to have the students build their own autopilot - this also counts as their senior project in computer engineering. We used the modified prop-driven Mig "target drones" (FQM-117B for those who are familiar with them) you see in one of the pictures as our aircraft. Our first autopilot was based on the FMA Copilot unit and a single-board computer with a GPS unit that steared it around. It was kind of a "bang-bang" state-based algorithm that made the plane fly around looking like it had an old escapement radio system in it, but it worked! It had a cheap 2.4 GHz video camera on-board to see the targets. That year, we competed against 7 other teams using commercial autopilots and we won.

The following two years we improved the system. We went to a Linux-based single board computer with programmable hardware, went to full PID-based control algorithms, and a completely functional ground station with video and picture analysis capabilities written in C#. At the 2005 competition, the Admiral who gave the key-note speach at the awards ceremony said "the right vehicle for this competition is a helicopter" so we started moving in that direction. It took two years for us to perfect the helicopter system, but we used it in the 2007 competition. Its a MAH Fury Ion with 16 Amp hours of battery on-board, 810mm blades, and a pan/tilt video system with high res. pictures. All up weight is around 20 lbs. The flight control system is all our own, with the exception of the IMU. We use the MIDG II by Microbotics, as, in our experience, it is much more accurate and tolerant of vibration and manuvering than any other IMU we've tested - and its TINY.

At the 2007 competition, we were the only group using