I'll trim them more precisely and I'll then sand 'em on a flat surface: then I'll simply join them together.
There will be enough mating surfaces around the edges as the corners are not fiberglass-thin due to a thickened mixture of resin+microballoons I applied to smooth the tight-radius corners prior to cloth layup.
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You guys are using foam. What resin do you use on which foam? I tried a one off and the foam melted, it takes a lot of filler when that happens, good thing it was a boat. Thanks
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It seems like you used polyester resin on polystyrene foam. In this case it will melt. If you still want to use polystyrene foam, then you are going to need to use epoxy resin (which is about 3 times the price, but a lot better to work with). I use polyurethane expanding foam. Its a 2 part mix and expands at a ratio of about 1:20. Its alot better to sand and cut than the polystyrene. You can apply polyester resin directly onto it, but it is expensive. For a litre, which will make about 20 litres of foam, its $35AUD. Just depends how big your plug is.
Ok, I was able to finish my first tip-float prototypes from my own molds!
I left you with the very first pair of halves roughly cut: before proceding I molded the second pair and I then trimmed all of them a little bit more precisely.
Please note that it is not really necessary to cut them perfect since the final trimming is achieved by sanding them on a flat surface:
Note that @ this stage the PVA film hasn't been peeled off yet: you can peel it off by hand and/or wash it off with tap water and a sponge.
The same applies to the molds that are depicted here just after the parts have been removed:
After having tried my hand at molding the tip floats I started to dream about a full fiberglass fuselage!
This is what I did yesterday in a day-long CAD session: I basically took Bernard's plans and re-drew them to lead to a plug which could be put together easily and quickly due to its interlocking construction.
The fuse plug needs to be split into a top and bottom halves (not into left and right): the top half will probably require a further longitudinal split if all the details are to be saved upon de-molding.
Here it is how I designed the parts for the plugs.
1. both the bottom and top halves share a common base:
2. vertical keel elements are then slid into the notches onto the respective base:
3. every single former is then slid into position:
4. stringers are added:
5. other elements complete the assembly:
6. the remaining -empty volumes- are then filled with foam and all the plug is sheeted with 1.5 mm balsa and then glassed;
7. priming and detailing takes place;
8. they are added to their parting boards and prepared.
This is what I came up with and I'll now see if I can get it done.
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Once the plug is covered with gelcoat, I let it cure to a tack. I did this project on a nice hot San Diego day so it cured to a tack in about 45 minutes.
At this step I used a different approach than I am used to. I came into possession of a large roll of veil that I decided to use in the corners and angles of the mold. In the past I have always used a combination of cabosil and resin. I found the veil easy to work with, especially when pushing it into corners with a chip brush. With the veil in place, I proceed to build the mold with three layers of 1 ½ ounce chopped mat.
I begin applying the chopped mat by brushing a nice thick layer of catalyzed resin over the area of the plug that I am working on. Then I place a piece of mat that has been pulled off of my roll and lay it on the plug. I like to keep the pieces fairly small on a project like this, no larger than 6 inches square. Pulling the mat apart will leave many loose fibers that will help the strength of my final product once it has cured. When applying the mat, I like to overlap my pieces by about 20% and build a nice flange around the base of the plug.
I let this mold cure on the plug for almost a week before demolding. This mold popped off its parting board with little effort. Likewise, the mold separated from the plugs with ease. The process for removing the mold from the plug is simple. I use a half dozed small plastic putty knives that I insert between the mold and the parting plane. Once I have one putty knife between the mold and the parting plane, I simply insert another putty knife at the edge of the separation that occurred as a result of the first knife. This is repeated time and time again as I work my way around the perimeter of the mold. Once you get started, this is an easy process.
And there it is, just how I like it. The plug is intact and the mold is relatively free of defects.
At this point the mold is inspected for any flaws, repaired and then prepped for its first part pulls.
Making parts with this mold is very similar to making the mold itself. I begin by applying five coats of mold release wax to the inside of the mold. Once the mold is waxed, I can apply a coat of PVA. After the PVA dries, I brush in a nice healthy layer of gelcoat. Once the gelcoat cures to a tack, I begin to lay resin and mat. Since this is a fairly large item, I do two layers of 1 ½ ounce mat to provide a little strength without the part getting too heavy.
Once this fiberglass gels, I trim the excess with a sharp utility knife and let the mold cure to its full hardness. Since I will be joining the two halves of the helicopter, I don’t pull the pieces from the mold until I am ready to join them. This is because any shrinkage / warping will wreak havoc with my attempts to line up the two halves of this copter during the joining process.
Removing the parts from this mold is done just as described previously. I slip a putty knife between the mold and the part. Using several putty knives, I work the perimeter of the mold to loosen the piece. I progressively dig the putty knives deeper and deeper until my parts pop out of the mold.
Once the parts have been removed, I can clean / flatten the edges with a sanding block, align the two halves and use masking tape to hold them together and seal the seam. To finish this project I catalyze about 4 oz of resin and pour it along the inside of the seam that divides the two halves of this copter. The resin is poured into the fuselage through the opening where the exhaust port would be. I then tilt the copter forward and backward to cover the seam with resin. Once this cures, I can remove the tape and deal with filling any defects in the seam.
With this post, this project is done. I apologize for the long delays between these last few posts. Good luck with your fiberglass projects. This project ended up consuming alot more of my time than I expected. I now have two helicopter ceiling fan models with a JetRanger on the way. Turns out it is a popular item. I have sold many on eBay and quite a few to folks who see them hanging in my office. It is always nice to make a few extra bucks with your hobby
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don't underestimate the power of compressed air from an air nozzle to help remove parts from a mold. Saves a lot of potential for damage from wedges and the like.
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After having tried my hand at molding the tip floats I started to dream about a full fiberglass fuselage!
This is what I did yesterday in a day-long CAD session: I basically took Bernard's plans and re-drew them to lead to a plug which could be put together easily and quickly due to its interlocking construction.
This is what I came up with and I'll now see if I can get it done.
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