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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/26/2007 10:16:24 PM   
pilotpete2



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Status: offline 		I think that Futabas marketing strategy of designing high end transmitters that are "native" 2.4Ghz systems, but not dedicated to 2.4Ghz gives you the best of both worlds.
Building high end transmitters without a pluggable RF module is a very short sighted move to my way of thinking.
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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/26/2007 10:35:21 PM   
DadsToysBG



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Status: online 		I don't see your point. Only Skeptrum is 2.4. JR 9303 and 12 can be bought both ways. JR has the 7303 in 72 add a module and you have the DX-7. Also I see a time when 72 will no longer be the radio of choice, and in some cases will no longer be built. At some point service will become a issue. All you have to do is look at the single stick radios. At one time there were a lot of them out, but over time they got so rare nobody made or serviced them. Dennis

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/26/2007 10:52:34 PM   
pilotpete2



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Status: offline 		The new JR X9303 is 2.4Ghz only, it cannot be instantly switched back to 72Mz to fly a plane that installing a Spektrum receiver in might be a problem, such as a carbon fiber fuselage sailplane. True you can buy the original 72Mhz 9303 and use a Spektrum conversion module in it, but you lose some of the performance advantages of a "native" spread spectrum system. The JR 7202 and Spektrum DX7 do not have modules, so no changing is possible with these radios.
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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/26/2007 11:59:13 PM   
DadsToysBG



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Status: online 		My mistake on the 7203. You are right. On the 9303 most if not all of the pilots can tell the difference. Now on the 12 ch JR you lose nothing going back in forth. Dennis

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/27/2007 12:12:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Where did you find info on the JR 12? They keep saying it is coming but I haven't heard about a production unit.

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/27/2007 2:24:06 PM   
DadsToysBG



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Status: online 		Got to hold it at the i-hobbies show last week. No date for the release or price yet. I already have several that have placed B/O. It will come with case and no servos. It will come with Spektrums new 12 ch. receiver. You can see it on Horizons web-site. They have added new software for the Jets and giant scale. Dennis

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/28/2007 8:34:21 AM   
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Like you I'm starting with a clean slate. I stopped many years ago and sold all my gear. When I decided to go back to the hobby a couple of months ago, I was faced with several choices. With no remaining investment in 72 MHz gear, I decided 2.4 GHz would be the best choice for me, and that's what I got.

Needless to say I will not be purchasing 72 MHz stuff anymore.

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/28/2007 1:26:51 PM   
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The expense isn't in buying a new radio (if you are in the market for a radio anyway). The expense is in converting all of your existing planes over to the new technology.
I have over 30 flight ready planes. Even if the receivers were $100 each, I would be looking at $3,000 plus the value of my time to switch them out and program the planes into the new radio.


The above was posted in response to my post which referenced cost issues - showing very little cost difference between equivalent 72 MHz and 2.4 GHz systems. It's perhaps worth noting that my post was intended for the original poster who stated that he was a newer modeler, so his expenses would not be as cited by MMallory above.

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/28/2007 5:35:10 PM   
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Status: offline 		I appreciate the input. I'm leaning more towards the 2.4 stuff but rx's are more expensive and there seems to be a lot of arguments over how sensitive the 2.4 stuff is to battery charge. No! I am not raising that issue. The rx cost does seem to be a factor.

Kevs182 - what did you go with?

Thanks

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/29/2007 1:49:19 AM   
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Status: online 		You won't be running out and buying a lot of RX's all at once as a beginner so the cost would be spread over time.
RX costs right now are:
FUTABA: 6C-$90 7C-$100 8C-$160
JR/Spec: 6C-$80 7C-$100 9C-$170
Definitely more than an FM RX but close to the costs of PCM RX's I believe.

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/29/2007 4:31:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		I use the 7000 rcvr in a 1/4 scaler, the rest of the ten rcvrs are 6000 or 6100 in the 60 size and smaller which are 50 bucks a piece up here.

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/29/2007 7:26:01 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Flypaper 2

I use the 7000 rcvr in a 1/4 scaler, the rest of the ten rcvrs are 6000 or 6100 in the 60 size and smaller which are 50 bucks a piece up here.

Those (6000,6100) are both rated ONLY for Park Flyers and were not included in my price hunt, only full range units suitable for Nitro powered planes. They only cost that here too, until your plane crashes.

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/30/2007 3:37:11 PM   
DadsToysBG



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Status: online 		One thing many don't realize is that when you buy a Spektrum you are really buying three receivers. Devide the cost by three and see the true cost. Dennis

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/30/2007 3:59:35 PM   
MMallory


 

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Status: offline 		Dennis,

If you NEED three you can't compare that to a system which only needs one.

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/30/2007 4:09:30 PM   
DadsToysBG



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Status: online 		Yes you can. The Skektrum uses three to keep a solid lock. Therfore the price reflexs the added cost of receivers. It boils down to unit cost. Dennis

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RE: With all of this talk of 2.4 ss... !!!!!! - 10/30/2007 4:33:21 PM   
MMallory


 

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Status: offline 		Dennis,

I don't care what it costs JR to make. I, as the consumer, only care about what it costs me. The two products do the same thing so they should cost the same. Now I do understand paying a premium for advanced features or functionality. But to try to justify the higher cost just because they needed more parts to make it work is a little out there.

No matter how you shake it, you are buying one system pe