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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 4:41:05 PM   
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????? I was wondering if one of the "moderators" of this open forum could help me find where my post went. Friday the 15th it was on this page (3).. It doesn't seem to be here any more, and I'm wondering why?

I don't believe I was being "attacking" or acting in any way that would be detrimental to this open forum. I simply said hello to my old friend "luisf150c"...


Thanks for the help.
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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 6:28:04 PM   
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Hello?

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 6:28:42 PM   
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Did someone remove my post because they don't like me?

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 6:31:30 PM   
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Look at me... I'm talking to myself.

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 6:51:53 PM   
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Wow, I saw Randy talking to himself!

My day is now complete.

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 6:54:06 PM   
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Things are really going down hill for me now.

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 8:28:17 PM   
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Repeat after me: One, two, ready, cut!

Hey, it was worth a try ... :

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 8:38:13 PM   
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Randy,

Your post was on 8-14-2003 ... it is at http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=1034966&s=#1034966.

It was not removed or nuked ... you just forgot where you responded.

Now take a deep breath ... and welcome back to the forums..

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 9:00:55 PM   
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DOH!

Sitting looking at himself, while talking to himself, while being forgetful.

Sounds like Randy is in Love.

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 9:18:50 PM   
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Oh man! That was a close one... :-) I've been heavily sedated, per my anger management therapist. Must be love is right... something like that.... where's my polecat? did I order one?

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 10:30:00 PM   
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Polecat???

It must have been "NUKED" or "REMOVED" because I didn't like you!

BY the way when are you going to fly it?

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 10:48:17 PM   
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I'm not very likeable... I got "nuked" again... must not be my day.

Probably not for a while...

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 11:32:40 PM   
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RB,

I can assure you that none of your messages have been nuked or removed ...

What was the subject of the posting? ... I'll try to locate it for you.

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/18/2003 11:51:25 PM   
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It's fine. You pointed me right to it. I was looking in the wrong thread. Thanks for the help.

RB

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/19/2003 12:24:02 AM   
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by CentryEagle
Woodie or composite.

If racing is meant only for composite, I won't be here. Its the woodies that will bring in the newbies. More affordable and accessible. If you want to race, you better learn how to build first coz you will understand a plane better.



Hudson
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Hudson,

This forum debate (or whatever you want to call it) is not about only composite was meant for racing... it's meant for keeping high dollar composite out of 424 because of the cost and perception. The newbies that may want to start racing may feel that they can not compete against such composite plane's because of the perception they get from the speed advantage, and the learning curve expenses that they have to go through. Most newbies will freak out about the cost when they find out the composite is $450 on up, and their mind is set... That's why the rules was in favor of keeping the composite out of 424 to gain more newbies to give racing a try.

Granted, if some of the newbies quit after they tried it, it's better chance we have than having none of them try it out in the first place. The odd is in our favor to gain new racing pilots. Also, it would teach them the needs of "how to", to built a good plane and understanding the technical aspect of setting up a racing airplane. All in all, it's better to have an opportunity to gain some new racing pilot than not.

Before... I din't really care about newbies using composite in 424, but because of the perception that some newbies get and holding out from giving racing a try, I voted for keeping composite plane's out due to their cost and perceived speed advantage. I for one, now, only built WOOD Quickies and competing against all the composite out there in 428, and if I get my butt kicked, then it's me from lack of experience and practice and building a good, clean airplane's. This does not deter me in anyway except it gets me ticked-off at myself to try harder/smarter next time and design/built a better, straighter and cleaner airplanes. With that said, it bring back the aspect of understanding a racing airplane.

Just my opinion!

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Composites have no place in 424 - 8/19/2003 1:01:09 AM   
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Just a note about this thread ... It had been dormant for several months. But since it is an interesting topic, it got bumped up by someone interested in the topic.

My problem with limiting the construction materials is: where do you stop?

In NEPRO, composite tails are ok, while in APRA, they are not. CF and fiberglass are allowed in so-called foam/balsa wings.

I've been doing some testing on materials for producing a "bounceable" or mid-air proof plane. Aramid (Kevlar) and hybrid carbon fiber / Aramid over EPP can take a whole lot of abuse. While it may not look pretty after such abuse, I believe that a plane can be built to survive mid-airs and bad landings. We know that bad landings cause newcomers lost heats. And mid-airs cost experienced racers positions.

Limiting the materials limits innovation.

Maybe limiting the materials of a local basis is a good thing. And if that is so, you can stretch the idea to making it a national rule.

So, IMHO, it is a toss up. There is evidence that limiting materials locally does work. However, I believe the real factor is cost.

But, like you said Sam, learning to put together an airworthy racer may be an important part of the entre into racing. And whether that means building a woodie, or prepping a woodie ARF, the experience may be an important aspect of racing.

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RE: Composites have no place in 424 - 9/29/2004 6:19:09 AM