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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/4/2007 2:01:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		The chair is made from different diameters of cain reed much like the original's used. I know all plane's didn't use these type chairs but Sopwith did ues them extensivly as did other Mfg's. Yes kind of labor intensive but not too bad once you know the technique.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/4/2007 3:27:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		BobH, Sounds like something to do while watching your favorite TV show.

Just spent some more time looking over the plans. I found the port and starboard wing panels to have a length difference of 3/16ths of an inch. Likely due to humidity or some such factor at the time of printing. This certyainly isn't a big deal. However, BUSA shows the incidence angles as 0 degree on the lower and 1.5 degrees positive on the upper. The only way I can get these angles close to those numbers, is if I use the flat bottom of the airfoil as the cord/incidence line. Using the actual cord line will produce angles of incidence about 2 degrees higher, or 2 dgrees positive in the lower and 3.5/4 degrees positive in the upper. I wonder if this is why people have felt the need to increase the stab incidence (I think this would actually be decreasing the stab/main plane decalage). I need to study the plans more, to determine if I should decrease wing incidence, or (more likey and the easier fix) increase stab incidence.

I'm quite surprised that the designer(s) doesn't know where the cord line of an airfoil is located!

Overall, I've found the plans dimensions to be fairly close to the Windsock Data File's 5 view drawing.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/4/2007 9:26:53 PM   
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Status: offline 		ModeOne, best way to get the curl out of the plans is the 'old indian trick' of rolling them up in the other direction and leaving them overnight

should come out fairly flat!

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/4/2007 11:24:07 PM   
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Status: offline 		Hi bob. Where do you find the reed to make the seat. I have been unable to find the material and resort to tearing down small baskets from the craft store. Vic

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/5/2007 1:10:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Vic I ordered my from Joann's Fabric in Frederick Maryland. I've seen other sources on the net but I don't remember them. Joann's.com should get you some information.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/6/2007 1:11:29 AM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks Bob. How is that Pup going. Vic

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/6/2007 1:46:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		You mean the Camel? It's going slow lol. I had to put it away for awhile.. it was making me nuts.. but I'll get back on it in the near future..

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/6/2007 3:44:47 AM   
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Status: offline 		FokkerAce, Your suggestion worked great! Really feel dumb for not simply thinking of this on my own!

I'm building the upper wing. Don't have alot to show, but it is going. I found a place in the instructions where BUSA states not to use an incidence meter to align the wings. Obviously they know that it will show incidences higher then what they show in the plans and this certainly would be confusing to some people!

So far I think I have a good kit, great wood and will be a fun build!

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/6/2007 11:17:22 AM   
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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/6/2007 11:57:10 AM   
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Hi bob. Where do you find the reed to make the seat. I have been unable to find the material and resort to tearing down small baskets from the craft store. Vic


I was doing the same thing. Then I decided not to tear down the baskets but instead find one I could just modify.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/6/2007 12:37:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		Don.. thats cheating! lol.. naaaa just kidding bro!

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/8/2007 1:57:32 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well, the left upper wing panel is fairly well along the way to being framed. I'm finding some "minor discrepencies" between what it says to do in the instructions and what it shows on the plans. However I also think the die cutting is very good and parts fit excellent!

I'm enjoying the process!


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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/10/2007 12:56:44 PM   
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Status: offline 		I have varied from the plans, slightly. I've found attempting to bend the top L.E. sheeting down to the wing tip and get it glued down following the curve of the tip is next to impossible without cutting through the sheeting to allow it to conform. Doing how instructed in the instructions on the bottom L.E. sheeting was difficult enough and I knew the top, because of the greater curve needed, was going to be a "Bear Cat"! At any rate, this is how I will proceed with the rest and by the time I get the 4th wing tip done, I'll know all the things I should have done on the first one!


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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/11/2007 9:26:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		FokkerAce, Did you ever do something with the Roland DVI?


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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 11/11/2007 9:37:08 PM   
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