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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/23/2007 1:09:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you're doing someones from the 94th sqn. CFC Graphics does a vinyl hat in ring emblem in 1/4 scale in 4 colors that I put on my 28. 25.00 for the pair including postage if I remember correctly, it's really well done. Mode, I've mentioned it on the WWI forum and in Abu's Pfalz thread that I used an incidence meter to set the incidence of my stab to 0 relative to the bottom wing as measured with the meter NOT using the bottom of the lower wing, This will give 2 deg of down thrust measured at the prop shaft and I set the top wing to 1 deg pos to the lower wing. The aircraft is very neutral to throttle changes and on landing if you hold it off and let it slow down you can almost see when the top wing stalls and the airplane settles for a nice three point. It wheel lands ok too but if it three points the skid (no tailwheels please) bites in and the airplane is down. My G23 is mounted on the firewall with no spacers save one about 3/32 thick under the left side that gives about 1-1/4 deg of rt thrust. CFC e-mail is aviojet@aol.com I think you and I must have some things in common, Ican tell by your AMA # about when you joined there (wasn't it $10 a year?) My orig no was five digits and was 64793. 1970 I think Im also using dial up but I do have an old sony digital camera that uses the 3 inch disks though. Happy landings, Doc. On power, if enough is good, more is better, and too much should be seriously considered.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/23/2007 1:10:07 PM   
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Where as I see many folks sorta closing down their R/CU threads over the holidays, I plan to keep visiting and posting.


I'm a true addict and can't stop! (("Put DOWN the balsa and STEP AWAY from the CA." )) But there's 7000 miles or so separating me from my Snipe. But that sure hasn't stopped me. My first day in the US I took a trip to the hobby shop and picked up three 1/8" x 3 x 24 sheets of mahogany and two sheets of basswood. Then in the afternoon I spent a few hours researching and drawing up outlines for a static prop for a 1/6 scale Albatros CI.

I also found on eBay and ordered a 1/6 scale Mauser rifle (actually a lot of three for $5). I also found a deluxe kit version made of real wood and metal for $25. Bizarrely, I also discovered that I can buy an actualy full-size Russian-made Mauser copy at the local sporting good store for $90. I had looked at an airsoft gun version in Osaka for $350. Well, I guess that's America for you.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/23/2007 1:31:49 PM   
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Status: offline 		I disagree, addicts have a problem, we're modelers-NOOO PROBLEM- I'll be here all through the the holiday season. Happy holidays and Happy landings, Doc. On power, if enough is good, more is better, and too much should at least be seriously considered.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/23/2007 3:58:45 PM   
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Status: offline 		Geezer, I joined AMA in 1976, when I joined TCRC in the Twin Citiies. I've built models almost my entire life, started with plastic airplanes at 6-7 and was heavy into HO trains at 10-11. Built stick models (rubber power and gliders) through-out my teens and finially after graduating from high school in 1968 went out and bought my first R/C set. It was a Kraft Gold Medal 4 channel propo. set and was put into a Sterling J-3 cub. In 1969 I had a stint working for Uncle Sam and put modeling aside for a few years, finally getting back into R/C in 76.

I took a sabbatical from this hobby for around nine years and built an HO layout over that time. I came back to R/C because I was annoyed by the fact that all the major manufacturers of train stuff were going to Ready to Run equipment (most now owned by Horizon Hobbies) only to find the total dominance of this hobby by ARFs! However, being a WW1 nut, and adept enough to scratch build anything there ain't a kit for, finding sheet, stick and block balsa still availble, I'm collecting plans like others collect kits. I love building, I fly good, but the heart of the hobby to me, is building!

I think for this project, I'm going to paint on my graphics, Heck, if Abu can paint roundels, I ought to be able to!


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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/23/2007 4:32:57 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ahhh. A man after my own heart. The big fun is building, creating flying machines is tops. Flying them is good but I'm happier in the shop than at the field. I graduuated High school in 64, Have also been building models since I was allowed to use glue unsupervised (glad we didnt have CA then) and have done Control line as a kid and towline gliders in the late 60s before radio. My first radio was a Royal 3 ch. kit at about 350.00 in 69, later bought a single stick 5 ch. factory built transmitter. I was residing in Ohio in those days and would attend the Toledo show each year and got a Kraft gold medal series five ch. single stick at the swap meet there. I dropped out in 76 and it wasn't till 88 that I got back in. Painting rondels is probably doable but I have a friend who has a computer controled vinyl cutter and he owes me vinyl for life, I gave him a framed and covered 1/3 scale Spacewalker. He couldnt figure out how long it would take him to lay out the Hat In Ring so I bought it from CFC. The water slide decals from BUSA are too thin and transparent, on the dark camo the colors just were too influenced by the background. I like thier kits, I'm finishing an SE 5a thats going into the covering process this coming week and the 1/3 scale N 28 kit is laying on the floor complete with 2 different sets of Vickers guns, wheels, covering and a 2.4 gig rx. There's a BME 5.8 twin in the cupboard that will power it, you've read mw power theory , right? Collecting kits!! I just looked toward the corner and I think there are 17 boxes there. Lots of older discontinued stuff there too. Sorry I run on. Happy landings, Doc. On power, if enough is good, more is better, and too much should be seriously considered.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/23/2007 6:13:00 PM   
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Status: offline 		I've heard your theory on power, you must have a theory on how to keep the wings from folding, also.


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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/23/2007 6:31:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Mode, throttle management.... functional flying wires. I didnt buy the engine for this project, it's a hand me down from an abandoned/stalled project and I'll get to use a more scale looking larger diameter prop with the lowest pitch I can get and have lots of pulling power without going for race plane speeds. Happy landings,Doc. Onpower, if enough is good, more is better, and too much should be seriously considered.

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/25/2007 1:53:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		Merry Christmas everyone!

I have two weeks off over the holidays and plan to spend a lot of time down in the shop working on the Nieuport! Santa was nice to my wife and she now has a digital camera. Maybe she will let me borrow it to take some digital photos to post here. To bad this won't speed-up my dial-up Internet, however!

The crutch of the fuse is complete and I'm starting to add the formers which round out the fuselage, so she is starting to take shape. My next step is putting the 1/32nd plywood over the front portion of the fuse. I'm starting to consider what, if any, detail I will put in the cockpit. I'm not big on paying a lot of money for a pilot and have used William's Bros. pilot busts in the past. However, this is big enough to maybe warrant something better. Trouble is the cockpit is aft of the CG so the weight I add here, will need to be compensated for, forward. Any ideas, anyone?

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/25/2007 2:53:21 PM   
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Status: offline 		If you study the datafile you'll notice there wasn't much in the way of instrumentation. Just a rev counter from the factory, and if you have read all the text, it mentions that pilots would have thier mechanics install a compass but I found no photo evidence of where or how it was done, and they mention an altimeter, also no photos. The throttle was on the left and there was an oil pulsator on the right. I'm sure there was a manual pump to move fuel from the aux tank to the main if f the Wyman exhauster pump quit for some reason. A guy I knew was going to clean up and prepare me a good face for the rev counter and had my datafile so he could scan it. Neither he nor my datafile have been seen since, I bought a new one. My pilot," Jimmy" weighs 146.4 grams (5.16 oz) and is full body to the knees. He isnt that far behind the CG. I have a 24.7 oz Graupner tank in my 28. They are shaped differently than most other mfgs. tanks and fit better in most planes, Hobby Lobby sells them. That much fuel with a G23 for power means I often fly twice before refueling, but usually I do and so there is plenty of weight in front of the CG to offset the pilot. Even if I put in two 12 to 14 min flts I heven't noticed the airplane behave as if tail heavy. It's been three years since my plane was balanced and I really dont remember where in the range it balanced but it was dry and I had no pilot in it at the time. I really suspect that the reccomended CG may be on the conservative side. Happy landings Doc. On power if enough is good, more is better, and too much should be seriously considered

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/26/2007 1:18:31 AM   
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Status: offline 		The suggestions I was looking for was on pilots.


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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/26/2007 1:22:34 AM   
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Status: offline 		I ordered an AH pilot for my SE 5a form england they use pay pal, easy as cake. Doc. www.thepilotpeople.co.uk/products.htm click on order to see scale and half or full body then click on what you want to select WWI or WWII or Jet or civilian Etc...

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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/26/2007 1:45:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Geezer, Like I said I'm not going to pay a lot of money on a pilot! 24 British Pounds is what $60.00 or so, plus shipping!


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RE: Balsa USA 1/4th scale Nieuport 28 - 12/26/2007 2:08:19 AM   
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Status: offline 		Actually it's a little over 50 bucks plus shipping. It's the same pilot Joe at Proctor sells, there arent a lot of full body pilots around in the states unless you want to put Patty Wagstaff or some other aerobat in your WWI model. There was a kit from a co. named DGA (darned good airmen) that I've got 2 in 1/4 and 1 in 1/3 that was real affordable, you got the head, gloved hands boots and patterns for the body and clothes, also included was a soft type helmet, goggles and a ball cap. They stopped operation a few years ago due to rising costs of the latex materials that the molded parts were made of. I got hold of the guy once via e-mail and he told me that he was trying to figure out if the market would bear an increase in prices. I gave him a positive response back and asked if he had any stock of kits or parts that he would sell, old price or new, never heard another word and when you try to find him on the net the address isnt there any more. I still have patterns for the body and clothes, I suppose you could use the head cut off a bust and carve a pair of hands. If you get desperate and want to try that later on let me know and Ill copy the patterns and send them to you. Doc

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