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Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/1/2007 3:31:28 AM   
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Well this whole deal started when I bought a fliton inspire here on RCU that was ARC. Fedex decided they didn't like the box so they folded it in two. Everything made it out ok except for the fuse. It was completely destroyed. After fighting fedex for a month and a half I gave up on trying to get any money for the damge they caused. Around the same time I purchased an OMP fusion and I fell in love with how it flew. The two planes have similar lines and are both pattern/3d hybrid designs. This got me to thinking. Could I mate all of the flying surfaces of the Inspire on to the Fusion? The Inspire is a bit larger than the fusion but built very light so i decided to give it a try. To be honest i am only the idea man behind this. My good friend and professional builder Mike Simon will be building/engineering this plane. Well I ordered a 52" fusion arf fuse from OMP and I received it this week. Mike and I will try to keep this thread updated on the build and hopefully we will be able to give a good flight report. Here are some specs on the plane and the equipment that will be used.

Length-54"
Wingspan-60"
Weight-+/- 5lbs
Wing area-700+ square inches
Wing Loading-17 oz/sqft
Engine-Saito 82 with bolly 14x6 CF prop
Aileron Servos-Hitec 5945
Elevator Servo-Airtronics 94360z
Rudder Servo-Airtronics 94360z
Receiver Battery- 1200mah 5 cell NIMH or 2200mah NMP li-ion with 6v regulator

Let me know what you think. Will it fly? Any tips?

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/1/2007 12:50:09 PM   
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This will be a cool project BBagle1 and something to be proud of. Trying new concepts and ideas in model aviation is one of the funnest and rewarding aspects of this hobby. Keep us all informed and we'll be glad to help anyway we can.

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/2/2007 2:26:53 AM   
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PROFESIONAL BUILDER??? Dude.. seriously... LOL. OK, if anyone is really going to follow this thread, I by no means am a professional. So, i have to post this disclaimer stating that by no means should you try to duplicate any of my build techniques. I have never even finished an entire kit plane. I can throw together an ARF in record time though. As long as it has CA Hinges (I hate hinges)

I can build a sweet spad though.

Here is the layout of the parts. Not much has happened yet.

Once again, this thread is "FOR ENTERTAINMENT PURPOSES ONLY"


Seriously though, if anyone has some tips, let us know. Like right now, i could use a tip. What is the best CA Remover from skin??


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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/2/2007 5:08:17 AM   
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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/8/2007 1:34:35 AM   
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Here are the latest pics. I had to do a little modification to the tail area to support the larger stab.

I came across a problem with the rudder / elevator. The rudder hits the elevator with barely any deflection. So, im going to modify the elevator halves just a bit so we can get big throw from that tiny rudder.

You can see the difference in size compared to my OMP Edge 540.

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/8/2007 7:23:20 AM   
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Just thought I would update one part of this build. Power will now be coming from either a saito 100 or a saito 125. I will be using a turboheader muffler so if I go with the 125 the weight gain will only be about 6 ounces. I think the CG will still be ok. The wings are a tad farther back on this plane than on the fusion which will move the CG forward but the rudder and stab i believe are heavier than on the fusion. Also I will be using heavy servos in the tail, over 2 ounces, with bug aluminum arms. The battery will of course be mounted in the back of the wing. Any ideas on why I might be wrong about the CG being an issue? BTW great job mike.

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/8/2007 12:49:29 PM   
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Holy cow that is a huge stab for that plane! This should be a very interesting looking plane when you get done. You are making quick progress!

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/10/2007 1:57:39 AM   
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I modified the elevator halves to accommodate 60 degrees of throw or so for the rudder. Being such a small rudder, i tried to get all i could.

I have the tail pretty much finished. I have it ready to cover.

Next is the wings. They shouldn't take too long to finish. Then we will tackle the chore of balancing this thing. We have discussed running the fuel lines internally. This autta be interesting if we decide to go that route. Oh, we decided that because we 'may' mount the tank in the canopy area directly above the CG.... if we are lucky.

Ill post some pics later.

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/10/2007 5:58:21 AM   
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IT TAKES A PAIR OF CAJUNS TO DO SOMETHING CRAZY LIKE THAT. Go tigers. Rick

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/10/2007 1:22:25 PM   
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bbagle1,

I just verified the weight of the 1.25 TurboHeader. It is 1.6 ounces ready to install.

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/13/2007 1:54:55 AM   
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Well it looks like I have made a deal on a saito 100. This should still give great performance without adding too much additional weight. I will still be using a turboheader muffler so the weight of this engine will only be just over 3 ounces more than a stock saito 82. It will also eliminate the need to use a 3 blade prop because of ground clearance issues with a 17" prop on a saito 125. Hope we can post some more progress soon.

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/13/2007 1:00:35 PM   
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Sounds like a good combination. I'll be curious to see the progress pics and the engine turboheader setup.

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/14/2007 2:23:39 AM   
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Is that T. muffler worth the cost? Have you used it before? I just use an flex pipe with no muffler and a pressure tap midways on the pipe,for my Satio 100. Let`s it rip.

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/14/2007 5:48:08 AM   
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I have one for my saito 82 that will fit the 100 as well. I have only run it on the bench but so far it looks good. I did pick up about 250rpm, the new version is about half the weight of the stock muffler, and from all of the reports i've read on them they don't fall off like the stock saito mufflers. I am mainly using it on this because it is lighter and i think we are going to need to save as much weight as possible on the nose. What size tank do you run on your 100?

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RE: Projet IN-FUSION build thread - 11/14/2007 11:52:49 PM   
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I got the 100 from mike. He gave me the APC 16-4 wide prop. It is a 3d beast. The Satio had to run a little lean to turn it. In fact i just rebuilt the Satio with new ceramic bearings. I would try that or the 15-4 wide APC. It will spool up faster. My application is not 3d,but i tried it anyway. The tips break the sound barrier and make a chopping noise. I am now getting ready to try a master screw K prop 15-6, it is wide like the APC wide prop is. Check out the pic`s on my model`s account page. It is hard for me to justify $ 70 for a muffler. I have seen 4 stroke engines on profile planes and they have twisting of the frame problem from the torque and vibration. That Satio will pull that thing like a ragdoll. It is worth a try, but you may want to consider after: a 2 stroke 75 size. Oh, I have an extra APC 16-4 W that you can have. I can give it to mike.

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