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Saito 220 or OS FS200


Saito 220
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OS FS200
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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 12/17/2007 1:28:34 AM   
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I've searched alot today looking for an aftermarket muffler or header pipe. I've got a question in to Bax to see if O.S offers a flex pipe for it.

So far no one has one.

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 12/17/2007 3:16:10 AM   
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Surely SOMEONE will see this as an opportunity to sell aftermarket mufflers!

I imagine the demand for an aftermarket muffler for the latest line of OS FS engines will be pretty good.

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 12/17/2007 5:45:59 AM   
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Ken, thing is the saito 220 has a rearward facing exhaust port and with the muffler in place, it does get in the way of the firewall or too close at times. For the OS220, the exhaust port is by the side and with the supplied muffler eventhough larger than the saito, it is fully adjustable in terms of reach as the header is fully threaded and with the angled adjustable exhaust it does away with an aftermarket exhaust deflector.You can also twist it 90 degrees to look just like a pitts which I did for my CAP232.
It suited me fine in my application although I have to add that it is not, I guess suited for every application.

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 12/17/2007 3:28:09 PM   
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I think it would help if OS did put about a 30-45 degree curve in their exhaust extension like Saito did.

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 12/17/2007 3:56:38 PM   
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I was thinking about putting the OS 200 on an Ultra stick lite. Its lighter than the saito 180

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 1/2/2008 9:09:15 PM   
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For my application, I need the curved exhaust header. I'm looking for flex tubing or something to keep from chopping up my pitts cowling. However, other than the straight exhaust header, I like the OS200 so far.

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 1/15/2008 6:56:51 AM   
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The exhaust port diameter of the OS200 is unusually larger than even the Saito220 so I can't find a single header that fits except the one designed for the OS 200FI by hatori. Still deciding whether its worth blowing big bucks for the muffler and header combo (approx $150). A pic of the hatori header attached to the OS200 that I just purchased. Needs more copper spacers/gaskets as the depth of the exhaust port is far greater than the OS200FI.

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 2/11/2008 6:52:21 AM   
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If I could swing it I'd get the OS in a heart beat.

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 4/5/2008 5:37:27 PM   
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Any more people running this engine? I'm ready to sell a couple Enya 155's for capital.

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 4/6/2008 7:40:42 PM   
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What is your opinion about Enya 155? I have recently purchased a new Enya 155 and what a beautiful engine it is and so is the OS200

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 4/7/2008 6:01:28 AM   
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The Enya will need about two gallons of 5% fuel to break in and until then it vibrates heavily and runs pretty hot. Heat cycle the engine in short 3 to five minute runs gradually leaning each run until you get to peak rpm. If the engine will hold peak rpm, run it 100 rpm down from peak for 3 to 5 minutes for several more runs with complete cools downs between each run until you put at least a gallon thru it.

I had to massage the carb and choke detent for proper operation. You choke the engine by setting the carb at idle and pulling the choke rod which slides the barrel to port, pull the prop thru a few times, push the choke rod back in and connect the glow driver. Wearing a glove give it a back flip against compression and it should get going but be careful! Until it's broken in it can bite your knuckles hard!!! I also made a velocity stack to get the fuel back into the carb. The muffler is extremely loud with a sharp bite so I made a custom muffler for each installation. Make sure you don't set the carb too lean on the airbleed. It is easy to get it too lean and it won't transition properly. This engine likes to be a little rich on the low end and even inverted you will get a nice low idle with it rich.

After about ten or twelve gallons I tore one 155 engine down because the front bearing was showing signs of slinging rusty looking oil. I changed both crank bearings but there were no signs of wear whatsoever on any internal parts! The ring still had the machining marks. I do make sure my engines are at least 100 rpm rich at all times running a Cline regulator, they were inverted and run on between 5% and 15% nitro with 18% oil 80/20 synth/castor. On 10% nitro I was getting at least 9000 rpm with an APC 17X6, the same as the OS 120AX two stroke but using less fuel. The engine can also turn a APC 18X6 around 8000 rpm but must be well run in and cooling air properly ducted in and out.

The exhaust on the 155 is probably the hottest of any four stroke I have ever run even when I know it's set a little rich. Overall I thought it was an excellent engine but the stock muffler sucks and you will at a minimum need to get the flex pipe and remote muffler, also make a intake pipe at least an 2.5 cm long to increase fuel economy greatly.

Run it and tell me if you have the same findings. Also if you find you don't have good compression you may have to carefully seat the valves with Mother's mag wheel polish. It is a very fine polishing compound for aluminum and when done properly will not do any damage.


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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 4/7/2008 9:44:31 AM   
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Thanks Skypilot one! I am really interested to run this engine soon as it looks very powerfull and your tachometer readings shows this is one of the strongest 150 4-strokes out there.

As far as OS200 vs Saito220 I think they can not really be compared because the size, weight and torque is not the same.

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 4/7/2008 9:50:18 AM   
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The OS 200 is more in line with the Saito 180 and it's too bad they made it capable of using 30% nitro.

Please make sure you use some castor, heat cycle the engine and don't use too big a prop when you break it in. An APC 16X8 or 17X6 would work good if you have one. Otherwise you might not get the RPM readings I do.

An old friend had the best running engines of anyone I knew. He taught me how to break-in my engines and I've been blessed with good, strong, long lasting motors.

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RE: Saito 220 or OS FS200 - 4/8/2008 2:04:45 AM   
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I seen just recently were a person was asking Bax over in OS support about a Flex pipe, and OS does not have one in the states at this time. The threads are different too.

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