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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/15/2007 11:43 PM   
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Hmm... I should read this forum more often.
I had no clue there were any VW people on here.
Im just getting into cars (I'm 15) and am in the process of fixing up my 86 Vanagon GL Syncro and acquiring a Beetle Baja Project Car.


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Thanks, James AKA BadBeetle (on TheSamba.com)


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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/16/2007 3:56 AM   
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typically you would want to use drop spindles in conjunction with an adjustable beam to keep the steering and suspension geometry correct. i know of a few guys using stock spindles on narrowed adjustable beams but the cars arnt daily drivers. all they did was flip the tie rods to help correct the steering geometry. it depends on how low you want to go. if your looking to submerge it then definitely use drop spindles. if your looking for a modest daily driver drop (about a 2" drop on 145 front tires) you might be alright if you just flipped the tie rods over on the stock spindles.

OK, that is nearly exactly what i am wanting to do, i was wanting to do a narrowed adjustable beam and drop spindles but it would cost about 600 bux to do that, cause the drop spindles are $150, beam $250, narrowed torsion leaf $90, narrowe tie rods $90 total = almos $600 That setup i wouldnt need 145 front tires but i would need a loan, i dont have a job yet and i can barely pull in 10 bux a week...so i am really liking just the narrowed adjustable beam. If i went with just drop spindles, how narrow of a tire would i need to run? thanx

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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/16/2007 4:15 AM   
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Well... the Beetle was given to me (Just need to find a place to put it.) and the Vanagon was DIRT CHEAP yet in MINT condition but didnt run so I talked to my mom and dad and agreed it would be my X-Mas present.

I just need to figure out the ignition system (No spark) on the Vanagon to get it going. It has 207k miles and was a 1 owner! Minimal rust and rarely driven in the snow. (Michigan sucks when it comes to rust.) The interior is 98% perfect and it has just about all the options.

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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/16/2007 10:20 PM   
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Status: offline 		just a beam should work (plus you can always add drop spindles later if you want/need to) but typically any time you lower a vw you need a smaller front tire. most ghia's iv seen on a beam and spindles are rolling ether 145's or 135's on the front on a 4.5 rim. or 145's on a 5.5 rim. i think you can also run 195/60's on a 5.5 rim. the 195/60's are the same diameter as the 145's, the 195's are just wider. the thing to do is lower it to where you want it, figure out what rims your going to use and then buy the tire that fits.
and fyi you can narrow the torsion leaf's and the stock tie rods yourself. might want to give that a shot, might save yourself 200 bucks. if you want instruction let me know


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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/18/2007 9:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		OK thanks, i was thinking, and wondered of i just took the trailing arms off and turned them so that it lowers the car then put them on, would that work? and am i explaining it right?

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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/21/2007 4:20 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well i just got done painting the dash in it and cleaned the underside of the decklid, also did alot o other small things, but here are some pics of the dash and decklid.......
before

after


and heres underneath the decklid, the whole thing had a quarter inch of black crap on it


Sticker on the tray under the rear window


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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/21/2007 7:53 AM   
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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/21/2007 10:03 PM   
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OK thanks, i was thinking, and wondered of i just took the trailing arms off and turned them so that it lowers the car then put them on, would that work? and am i explaining it right?

ahhh your close enough, its called a spring plate and it attaches to the torsion bar in the rear end. your talking about turning it a notch or two to lower the rear of the car. its common practice cause its the only way to lower the rear



is that primer or paint? you going to do the hole car that color? and an fyi from a body guy, don't primer anything unless you have to. primer soaks up moisture like a sponge. and you know what moisture does to steel right? interior panels are no exception. i spent 2 years chasing that problem before i was able to paint my bug

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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/21/2007 10:17 PM   
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Status: offline 		That black crap was probably underbody spray. Here in Canada we spray the bottom of our vehicles, the insides of the doors and trunk, and the inside of body panels with it to prevent rust due to winter driving. You probably don't see that too much in California.

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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/22/2007 4:26 AM   
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OK thanks, i was thinking, and wondered of i just took the trailing arms off and turned them so that it lowers the car then put them on, would that work? and am i explaining it right?

ahhh your close enough, its called a spring plate and it attaches to the torsion bar in the rear end. your talking about turning it a notch or two to lower the rear of the car. its common practice cause its the only way to lower the rear



is that primer or paint? you going to do the hole car that color? and an fyi from a body guy, don't primer anything unless you have to. primer soaks up moisture like a sponge. and you know what moisture does to steel right? interior panels are no exception. i spent 2 years chasing that problem before i was able to paint my bug


It is paint, i am not going to primer anything because of the exact reason you gave....if i do want a primer look i will get a flat color, most likely a red or a black for the outside of the car, but that wont be very soon.

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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/26/2007 1:33 AM   
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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 11/26/2007 3:46 AM   
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Status: offline 		that's the same extractor header and single quiet pack muffler me and damn near everyone else have. there cheep and work good on small motors. but they fit like crap! i had exhaust leaks caused by the heat risers on the header not lining up with the pre heat tubes on the intake manifold (wound up with a backfiring problem) solved it with some block off plates. and i lost my heater cause the header blocked the rout (and in inlet) to the heater boxes. so i had to just plug the outlet ports on the fan shroud and go with no heat.
and a little advise, before you install it, sand it down and put a few coats of BBQ paint on it. those lame ass's at EMPI used regular paint on the thing and the first time you drive the car it all burns off and within a few days the header and muffler rust.

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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 12/11/2007 4:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Well i havent done much to it in the past couple weeks, but i am going to get this exhuast,
and this beam with adjusters then hopefully s karpet kit and stereo, oh and the window chrome so i can put the quarter windows in.... Ill have more pics of the car with those parts on it after christmas, by they it will sit like this car

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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 12/11/2007 7:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		ya know, it just dawned on me that that fat boy muffler is going to drag like a **** if you go THAT low in the back. also might make it a pain in the ass to change the rear tires.


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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 12/18/2007 4:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		Yeah, i never thought of that, it might rub wont it, well i am not getting a exhaust for a little while anyway, cause those windows arent going in themself.....and it isnt gonna be cheap.....well my b-day was the 12th and i got a 154 piece tool set, so now i can go tear into it, more updates after christmas, cause that will be when i get cash and parts

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RE: BUG OR GHIA??? - 12/19/2007 2:56 AM   
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under NO circumstances is it ok or understandable for a straight male to drive a new beetle, no mater what model or engine it is equipped with. period! the new beetles are for spoiled high school cheerleaders, college hippie chicks, and aging milf's in midlife crisis. any guy caught driving one, instantly has his sexuality called into question.
and there's NOTHING that can be done to new beetles to fix that or turn them into a guys car.


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RE: BUG OR GHIA??? - 12/19/2007 3:13 AM   
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Status: offline 		yeap, iv seen that and i still stand by my previous statement. all that thing is is a chick car with a jet engine. which makes me question the sexuality of that jet engine


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RE: BUG OR GHIA??? - 12/19/2007 5:24 AM   
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yeap, iv seen that and i still stand by my previous statement. all that thing is is a chick car with a jet engine. which makes me question the sexuality of that jet engine

I think i agree, now if it was in a fat chick, that would be pretty cool.....

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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 12/20/2007 2:33 AM   
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RE: EDIT!!! 1968 GHIA PROJECT!!! - 12/20/2007 6:40 AM   
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good point... it should be shoved into an old bus.. Than it might get beter mielage

as long as it is a bay window.....then it would be pretty cool, it would sure suck to be behind that guy going up a hill.

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