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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/26/2007 12:29:30 AM   
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Dave

I've read the same thing. THe Plans do sate 2 degrees of washout are required. The question is how to put it in? If you know, please let out the secret. I'm presently concerned with how much right thrust is required as the plans do not mention that.

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/26/2007 10:51:53 PM   
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Andrew,

There is a great article on Vailly's website about washout and how to build into your wing.

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/27/2007 12:20:17 AM   
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Here's how i got the 2% washout. I built the wing and sheeted it top and bottom. I then weighed down the center section on my work bench with enough weight so that it would not move. I then shimmed up the trailing edge at the tips and clamped it down with a c-clamp.
at the leading edge. The wing is flexible enough to twist until the leading edge was brought down to the bench top. Once I had my 2% washout twisted into the wing I took a straight edged and an Xacto knife and slit through the sheeting down the length of the middle of the top of the wing. This opened up slightly. I ran thin glue into the gap and let it set then filled the slight gap and sanded. The gap was only on the order of 1/32 wide so it didn't take much to fill it. This is similar to the Dave Platt method were he leaves off a small piece of the top sheeting and then twists the wing while gluing in the last piece of sheeting. This worked just fine since the wing is pretty flexible until it is fiberglassed. The more traditional way would be to put a tapered wood piece under the trailing edge to get the washout and then putting on the top sheeting. I found that the flexibility in the wing caused the wing to flex back quite a bit after I removed it from the tapered piece so I had to use the method I mentioned above.

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/27/2007 1:13:53 AM   
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Scott, thanx I got it.

I've strarted to build the ailerons and I found a problem with the control horns. So I built my own from the plans. Pics follow:

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/27/2007 1:17:43 AM   
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Larry - did you use your method before or after gluing the 2 wing sections together?

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/27/2007 1:19:46 AM   
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Pics of the control horn

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/27/2007 1:24:32 AM   
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OK Jeb - I got the retracts today. All I can say is WOW. THey look great and very robust. I can't wait to get this bird in the air and see them work. Here are a few pics for y'all (the Oklahoman version of the plural of "you" .

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/27/2007 3:06:15 PM   
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I had the wing completely built and joined. I used that method because the wing did not come out with the right amount of washout when I had finished building it. As I said the wing has enough flex in it to twist in 2% after it was sheeted. If I were to build it again I would probably use the Dave Platt method and sheet the wing fully except for the last section in the middle of the top of the wing. You then twist in the washout and put in the last sheet which locks in the washout. I am interested in your opinion of the construction of this kit. After talking to my friend who is building the Tempest we both agreed that the spacing on the ribs and bulkheads is farther apart than we have seen in other plans, like the Don Smith. While making the plane light I have had trouble getting that "Starved Horse" look because of the lack of support for the sheeting, especially the fuselage.

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/28/2007 2:07:44 AM   
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THanks for your help Larry. I'll be putting in the washout like you say and further give you my thoughts about the sheeting issue when I get there.

Well its been a tough day at work so I thought I'd start the flaps after finishing the ailerons (no LE sanding until later). Here is a pic of one of them.

I was about to start on the flaps when I noticed that one end of them, the outboard end is approximately 1/8th inch wider than on the inboard side. The inboard width measures 3 inches and the outboard, 3 and 1/8th.

Larry or anyone else, can you verify this? Thanks.

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/28/2007 2:09:19 AM   
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P.S. I know that I still need to add the trim tabs on the ailerons. Just too tired for know.

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/28/2007 2:24:19 AM   
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These are the cream of the crop or the Cadillac of retracts, just one thing though the Sierra struts aren't scale length for this size FW190. The approximate scale length is 13.5 inches. I mounted a set of Gene Barton retracts in mine and it stands tall just like the full scale bird. Also the real Fw had a very sophisticated belly pan that had a square concave tunnel down the middle that helped to house the retracts and the exhaust pipes that ended flush with the cowl. Roy doesn't show this on his plans, matter of fact Roy didn't have it on the FW190 he entered in Top Gun a few years ago. It's a pain to build because a lot of the parts don't match the plans but it is worth it when it is finished. I don't want to sound like a blow-hard but the Fw190 is my favorite aircraft and I have a lot of information and color schemes for this subject.

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/28/2007 3:45:09 AM   
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dpisciotta - I'd be very interested in the color schemes that you have. I have not made a final decision and like to see some options to choose from.

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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/28/2007 12:50:43 PM   
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Andrew,
Nice retracts. Great job on the pictures and build thread, thanks for the effort.
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RE: Vailly FW 190 Build - 11/28/2007 2:20:12 PM   
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dpisciotta,

If you want scale length struts for the Vailly FW-190, all you would have to do is ask.
We could use the ones from the Airworld FW-190. They have about a inch longer strut.

We just make them to fit Roy's plans as currently drawn.

Sierra Giant Scale

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