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new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 5:22:58 PM   
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http://www3.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXRJS5&P=0

has anyone tryed this???
seems pretty fast and strong..thinking about ailrons?


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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 5:36:57 PM   
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about 30 flights on them so far on ailerons. fast, strong, good centering tho there has been some talk there are other brushless servos coming from Futaba specifically for ailerons

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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 5:46:16 PM   
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What are the advantages of a brushless servo on a YS application, exactly? Just curious.

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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 5:47:30 PM   
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These would work very well on a 2m ship for ailerons. There are some other brushless servos coming sometime fairly soon, although I really don't know of an exact date yet.

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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 6:07:43 PM   
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Futaba claims 30% faster speed, lasts 5 times longer than other servos, smoother
operation, greater resistance to jolts and vibration, same current draw as other
digital servos, etc, etc, etc.

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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 6:09:28 PM   
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Here is a release from Futaba about their Brushless servos.

1. The brushless servos offer greatly improved response time over
other servos. Specifically, the response time on the brushless
servos has been decreased from 10ms to 7ms. This means that the
servos will react much, much faster to any control input.

2. Significantly increased life span. The new brushless servo
motors will last more than five times longer than servos that include
brushed motors.

3. Lower operating temperatures. As there are not any brushes on
the motor armature, there is no spark produced when the servo motor
is in operation. Thus, the temperature remains very constant within
the servo rather than increasing as they do in a brushed motor
servo.

Furthermore, thanks to the motor design, the outer coils act as a
heat sink dissipating any heat that does occur. As an added benefit,
Futaba is able to increase the torque or speed of the servos without
increasing the case dimensions.

4. Vibration & Shock. Unlike servos that used brushed motors, the
brushless servos from Futaba are less susceptible to the effects of
vibration and/or shock. While we don't want the modeler to abandon
the use of the servo grommets and rubber mounts, these servos are
simply less apt to experience difficulties from poor or improper
installation.

Additionally, the inertia of the standard motors also facilitates the
effects of vibration on the servo's performance. By eliminating this
inertia in a brushless servo, Futaba has reduced this possibility.

5. Power consumption. Brushless servos consume approximately the
same amount of power as their digital servo counterparts.

6. Centering. Centering is the same as it is with the digital
servos. The dead band is also equal to the digitals.

7. Case size. Brushless servos are the same as a standard-size
servo.

8. Increased resolution for smoother operation.

9. Samarium Cobalt magnet for better performance and increased
holding power.

10. Dual ball bearings.

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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 6:27:40 PM   
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Samarium Cobalt magnet

Wow i need to get a dozen. first a magnet. next a rare earth magnet. now a Samarium Cobalt magnet. Where will it end.
Which brings to mind what is a Samarium Cobalt magnet? And why is it better than a some other kind of magnet?

Anyways what's happening Arch?

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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 8:05:17 PM   
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Fantastic servo, been running them on the ailerons since September. Very tight gears (virtually no slop when new), and very smooth and accurate.

I noticed that Akiba was running them on elevator and rudder at the Worlds, so they would be good as an all purpose servo. I would choose these over anything else Futaba has at the moment.

I have some BLS 351's on the way but I doubt I will get to try them until spring now


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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 8:24:06 PM   
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I notice they are a little bit heavy compared to other digitals. What I would love to see is a mid sized brushless for the ailerons.

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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 9:56:48 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: d_bodary

Samarium Cobalt magnet


Which brings to mind what is a Samarium Cobalt magnet? And why is it better than a some other kind of magnet?




Try this for openers: http://www.semiconassociates.com/products/magnets.aspx?gclid=CLzEyZu89o8CFTkjFQodBGD4-A


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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/24/2007 10:15:52 PM   
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I cannot believe the wealth of info here on RCU that was one question i thought would never get answered. And get this the company that was listed has an address in Lexington KY.

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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/25/2007 4:01:23 AM   
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If you can wait for a bit longer, Futaba will come out with more brushless servos next year designed specially for aileron, that's came straight from Naruke at the WC. However, the current 451 is good for rudder and ele. It's more or less like the first generation digital 9250, we used them on ail before the 9150 and 9154 hit the market.

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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/25/2007 4:34:22 AM   
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Is there a difference between brushless and coreless? I'm...ready for this???...clue-less!

BWAHAHAHaaahahahhahahhaaaaaa

Serious question though. 8-)


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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/25/2007 9:29:54 AM   
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WEll then the order is placed!
thanks for answering guys


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RE: new futaba servoes?? BLS 451 - 11/25/2007 3:05:04 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: can773

Fantastic servo, been running them on the ailerons since September. Very tight gears (virtually no slop when new), and very smooth and accurate.

I noticed that Akiba was running them on elevator and rudder at the Worlds, so they would be good as an all purpose servo. I would choose these over anything else Futaba has at the moment.

I have some BLS 351's on the way but I doubt I will get to try them until spring now


Is this a metal gear servo? How is the play after running awhile in an electric and a YS.



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