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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/22/2008 8:24:59 AM   
aircraftking


 

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Joined: 10/24/2007
From: Luling, LA, USA
Status: offline 		Despite reading a few negative things on here about this plane, I have to say I am impressed with it after flying my brother's for the first time today. All of this modding for what? I was flying the plane 100% stock in wind with no problems for over 15 minutes and I landed it nice and easy. It flies great even at under 50% throttle. I thinks its a good looking plane too and you can get parts with ease not to mention the easiest plane to put together. Another thing I thought was really good is the way the plane is built. The wings attach, not glue, the canopy uses magnets, all the electronics are easy to get to. I really like it and surprised to see others that don't. One thing I did notice, it seems the elevator control surface is rather small but it never seemed to matter once that thing got flying. Probably a great second plane after someone masters a super cub and they want to try their hand out with edf jets.

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/22/2008 10:18:10 AM   
northchim


 

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From: Denair, CA, USA
Status: offline 		paul: tell me more about watt meters and how they work if you don't mind.

animal: you should talk to the guys at hyperflow. they might be able to shed some light on this.

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/22/2008 1:03:37 PM   
paul daniel


 

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From: Pewaukee, WI, ALBANIA
Status: offline 		Aircraftking: There are a lot of better second planes out there than the Diablo. I think the Diablo is a first plane since it's so slow.

Northchim: The watt meter is a must have if you are going to stick around in electrics and especially experiment with set ups outside of what comes from the factory. If you take an electric out of the box and stick with the same power set up, you will be fine. However, when you start going to bigger batteries and more powerful motors, that's where you need one. There are really two things that you want to see on a watt meter. First, how many amps your set up is drawing. If you have a 25 amp ESC and pushing 40 amps through it, you are going to cook something. The other item is watts. I have an Astro Flight. You can get a compete description by going to their site:
http://www.astroflight.com/store/store-type-tem.html?item=products:af-101d&sid=0001g9S6PZnVlEU4Ok2g1C6
They cost about $50 and will save you money down the road.

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/23/2008 6:01:31 AM   
northchim


 

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Status: offline 		paul: Thanks for the info. Much appreciated.

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/24/2008 12:17:56 PM   
animal acker


 

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From: st. louis, MO, USA
Status: offline 		I agree Paul , thank you for the info. I felt like I had done my homework before but now I know better, life's lessons are sometimes bittersweet.

North: Im not sure if hyperflow will be of any help since I bought an e-flite motor from horizon hobby, can you be more specific as to what they may be able to tell me? I do understand why you went with the set up from them now, it takes the guesswork out of trying to marry up different components. In leiu of a watt meter. I do want one now.

Lastly: When is this L-39 coming out it looks like the brushless guts of a diablo in a better plane.

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/24/2008 6:11:01 PM   
paul daniel


 

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From: Pewaukee, WI, ALBANIA
Status: offline 		AC: The L-39 was supposed to come out right about now. It's going to have the same set up that the Syapse has. I was not impressed with that when I flew it and sold it. The L-39 sure looks cool though. If you have money burning a hole in your pocket and have to buy something now, I would take the sure thing, the Twister. And no, I do not work work them.
Paul

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/26/2008 11:05:43 PM   
animal acker


 

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Status: offline 		Thanks paul, but the twister is a larger plane than I want to fly for now, but it is nice.
My LHS guy told me to look on this site for a plan or layout for the twin brushless diablo but I cant find it, Now I know this plane is a turd but I am curious so if you or anyone knows of this stuff please do tell.

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/27/2008 3:48:34 AM   
northchim


 

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Status: offline 		Paul: I bought a watt meter today.

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/27/2008 4:13:31 AM   
animal acker


 

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Status: offline 		I ordered a new motor today, An Ammo 20-40-4040 this one will not burn up like the e-flite did. I looked at the park 400 4200 kv by e-flite but it says the max surge amps was 24 for 15 seconds. Whereas the ammo can go non stop at full power, and its cheaper. What gives? I thought e- flite was so good and this is what I have encountered so far. Remember I am using a 3 cell 1500mah lipo with 1.5 amp max charge.

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/27/2008 4:17:42 AM   
animal acker


 

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Status: offline 		North:I saw the funjet that chippedprop has, its very fast, I may look into this one how's yours coming? also the turd.

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/27/2008 5:22:43 AM   
northchim


 

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From: Denair, CA, USA
Status: offline 		Hey animal: Funny you ask about my funjet. I just bought all my components today. I will be building my funjet over the next couple of weeks. I bought an e-flight six series 28-36-2700kv inrunner, Hitec HS-65hb servos, SS45 amp esc, Spektrum 6100 receiver, 5.25 x 6.25 prop, and a 3s 25c/50c 2070mAh LiPo. This combonation should be good for around 100mph+. I have always heard good things about e-flight also. I'm sure what happened to you was a fluke thing.

< Message edited by northchim -- 3/27/2008 3:29:34 PM >

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/27/2008 6:10:21 PM   
paul daniel


 

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From: Pewaukee, WI, ALBANIA
Status: offline 		I know at least one of you saw the light and purchases a Wattmeter. For the rest of you who are experementing with different set ups, you really need to get one of these or you will cook stuff.
Paul

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/27/2008 6:15:40 PM   
animal acker


 

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From: st. louis, MO, USA
Status: offline 		Yes paul you are right, but I am on a budget, so I will just get up and flying again, then purchase a watt meter. It will obviously save money in the long run. Not to mention frustration.

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/27/2008 8:32:55 PM   
mallen14


 

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Joined: 3/27/2008
From: , NC, USA
Status: offline 		Just found this forum, enjoyed catching other people's opinions of the Diablo.

My thoughts...

Issue 1 - Radio glitches- Yes, my radio system has a stutter in it. It does odd things even at close range, but hasnt seemed to do so while actually in the air. At least I can't blame any of my crashes on that.

Issue 2 - Weight problems - My diablo flew great right out of the box. I am even flying it now with a 2.5oz wireless video camera on it, no problems. I'll try and post some of the cockpit-view videos soon. I haven't added any weight with any combination of upgrades to make it work, everything has been shifting the battery.

Issue 3 - Underpowerment - With the single power pod and trainer wings, everything was nice until the fan started getting loose. Then it flew like a chicken with clipped wings. With the dual power pod and advanced wings i had the same problem. I used loctite on all the motor/fan junctions, and my problem is fixed. Flies fine with both sets of wings on dual power pod (stock) and fine on trainer wings w/ single. havent tried advanced wings and single pod.

Issue 4 - I get reverb in my fans. In the single power pod at 1/3 throttle i get a positive feedback system going, and things shake terribly. In the dual power pod this happens at 1/2 throttle. I was told to use chokes (magnetic) on my esc wiring... doesnt cure the problem though it seems to help a little. Wondering who else has solved this problem, bc i havent.

Bottom line... I recieved this as a present and I have really enjoyed it. For severe underpowerment, check all your connections. Probably have some slippage going on at the fans. For weight, I must have gotten a better fuselage than most of yall.

Thanks for your feedback

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/28/2008 4:29:45 PM   
jrodri4566


 

Posts: 53
Joined: 6/16/2007
From: Fort Worth, TX, USA
Status: offline 		Hello,
I just got my diablo in from tower yesterday, I plan on taking it up today and will post some results, everything was ok, except 2 things

1. Elevator flap was bend, I took a blow dryer and flatted it out not a big deal
2. CG (center of gravity) was way off, I had to add 1oz to the nose the get her to balance

Heading to the park be right back with the results.
P.S. wind is about 8-10 mph

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RE: flyzone diablo - 3/28/2008 4:53:47 PM   
jrodri4566


 

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Joined: 6/16/2007
From: Fort Worth, TX, USA
Status: offline 		gonna have to try later or tomorrow way too windy.......

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