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animal acker -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/13/2008 3:51:28 AM)

Im glad you think it should be a feasable set up Im of the belief that you should be able to go outside the makers recommendations at least a little.

And if you put flying turd on yours will you paint it brown? perhaps some corn decales or peanuts. ha!



Erik St. -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/13/2008 3:56:19 AM)

Animal acker, you'll be fine with the 1500mha; I have flown the original 1500, a quality 1650, and cheapo-chinese 2200mHa. All worked fine.

Interestingly enough, in an unscientific manner, I have not noticed glitches since the brushless up grade. Mark-my-words: It was the ESC causing trouble!

So, with the new BL upgrade and the 30ampESC I have not noticed glitches. but then again I do have horrible vibration at mid throttle.

I tried a new rotor and it did not help. My guess is that my Hyperflow unit has been through so much that it is not balanced. I have removed melted palstic a few times after crashes and mis-adventures. I bet that is the cause.

Lastly, luckily, the vibration occurs at around 20-35000 RPM, so as long as I'm willing to goose-it to 45,000+ it sounds clean, I just wonder how long the gear wil hold up?

Lots of fun, lots of tinkering, that's what it's about, right?



northchim -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/13/2008 4:01:49 AM)

animal: how about a green paint scheme intead of brown. Someone may think its UPS or something.



animal acker -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/13/2008 4:06:23 AM)

Erik: On my old hyperflow The main frame which the moto screwed on to was broken and beaten, the connectors or fins that held the mounting portion of the hyperflow were cracked and chipped yet after tightening my mounting screws I had no vibration and the glitches that I do get are in the throttle area with the old and the new brushless esc. Sometimes thing just are weird ya know.



animal acker -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/13/2008 4:28:31 AM)

North: Thats hilarious, I used to work at ups and often thought the trucks looked like that.
I saw the f-15 from e-flite, it's big! But exactly what I want only maybe the size of the diablo, does something like this exist?
Or maybe a f-22. I gotta go my girlfriend is yellin" at me. ( shes jealous of the plane hehe!)



northchim -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/13/2008 4:39:32 AM)

animal: I saw that e-flight f-15 too and really like it.

See what you think of these:

http://www.nitroplanes.com/durcai.html

http://www.ejf.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=70



wickell -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/13/2008 5:48:44 PM)

Have had my Diablo up on 3 flights with the single pack. Did not have a CG issue with mine. Did seem to have tx/rx issues during the first flight. Switched tx/rx to Spectrum and had had no further problems. Was hard trimming in the rudder to make nice turns. Flew well, was slow but after adjustments it was ok flying. Landings are challenging with the single engine pod. Nose has a tendancy to dig into the ground. Flew with the duel pack a few days ago. Aircraft flew about 40 feet before hitting the ground. It wasn't damaged. I had added some light weight helo skids under the pod to land on.



animal acker -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/13/2008 11:34:26 PM)

Wickell: what wings are you using stock or advanced? Either way it doesn't matter. Throw that dual pod away and go brushless or go home!
You will be so much more happy.

North: I saw those nitro planes Yeah their nice too, they say they have a rudder but I dont see one, the verticals look solid to me.
And the f-19, WOW thats a pretty penny but its nice. Turbo brushless? whats that? Just bigger or more powerful insides?

And hows your set up, fast or what?



sparky4166 -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/14/2008 12:39:17 AM)

Got the new Diablo in today. It was in as good of shape as the new one I bought at my LHS. Stuck the pod on my old fuse with the new wings and checked the cg. Perfect at 2 5/16" Both batteries charged now I just need the wind to die down so I can decide if I'm gonna re-build the old pod brushless or hand it to my son and order me a new electristar.[:D]



northchim -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/14/2008 1:53:55 AM)

wickell: Throw away the dual pod or sell it on ebay or something.

Do you know about installing your motor on top of the fuse? Saves hassles when trying to land. Check out this vid:

http://youtube.com/watch?v=PAjbqvjAu1E

animal: I have no idea what they mean by turbo brushless. The description is vague. Could be just a marketing ploy so they can charge $500 you know what I mean.

I have not had much time to work on my Diablo lately. I am waiting for another Diablo I ordered from scratch & dent to come in along with my upgrades. I've been pretty slow on upgrading my plane with go-fast stuff. I also just got a Multiplex Funjet that I hope to get up and flying soon. I will let you know how this motor combination I bought works out.



BCBasher -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/15/2008 9:31:00 PM)

Has anyone tried these recivers with another transmitter? My 3rd scratch and dent diablo showed up and my fourth will be here soon so I'm getting quite a colection of these crap radios. I use a Hitec Laser 4 in the one I fly but my buddy is using one of these radios in his slowstick and it is pretty glitchy. Spare micro recivers woud be nice if the transmiter was the problem. Of the two I've flown already the second one was realy badly balanced (way too much paint on the tail) had to move the esc and reciver almost up to the battery. This latest one seems to have less paint on the fuselageand should require less moving stuff to balance. I've read that these dont like wind but I'd have to disagree I live on the coast so waiting for calm days isn't an option and I find these boring in less than 10mph. They're a blast when the small craft advisorys come out. Anyways heres some videos of mine, I fly hard and crash harder and this is a cheap fun way to do it. http://www.youtube.com/user/BCBasher



animal acker -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/16/2008 5:24:59 AM)

Any of you guys know of a f-23 model? You tube had some japs with one they kept crashing is one available?



tubamike78 -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/18/2008 9:42:16 PM)

the tactic is same kind of radio that is used in the aze-ex helicopter. i've switched out the crystals in the receiver to match up with my futaba 4ex tx and it works just fine.



northchim -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/19/2008 1:12:24 AM)

animal: Never heard of an f-23 yet.



animal acker -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/19/2008 11:07:32 PM)

Northchim: My compliments to you for your idea of mounting on top. Today I flew my diablo with the new set up, Motor on top but I took apart the pod, cut the styrofoan down to a smaller peice. Used two hyperflow edf's one to house the motor the other I gutted and glued to the back of the first to act like a continuation of the unit and installed one of those stators within. gorilla glued the edf to the styro mount and secured the styro mount to the plane with a couple of zip ties. Turns out it works great. Much improvement, I also painted the top of the plane black. Not so good. I have trouble telling where its pointing sometimes, I'll paint the tail orange. I dont have a radar gun but I know that its quick! I will try to post some photos to better show how Ive done this.



animal acker -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/20/2008 12:19:41 AM)

How am I able to show some photos on this thing!?



paul daniel -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/20/2008 2:52:42 AM)

You guys are waisting your time on a turd. Spend your time building something that actually flies with NO modifications like the Twister. I've done all the mods I'm going to on it. It's nothing more than a really cool looking glider and that's it.

To load pictures click on the link below your post that says "Click here to upload photos"



northchim -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/20/2008 7:10:04 AM)

animal: I want to see a picture of what your talking about. It sounds intersting. I am in the middle of installing my new bl motor and upgrades. Things are not going very easy let me tell ya. I can't wait till it's flying though.

paul: I know this plane is less than stellar. I am trying to make it the best it can be and then just fly it until it craps out. I bought a funjet that is my next project. I almost bought the twister. After that I want to get the Yardbird f22 and I really like RCPowers planes as well. I would like to get into gas/glow planes soon too.



animal acker -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/21/2008 1:46:43 AM)

Thank you paul I will try again. But now I have a real problem. The e-flite motor I was using stopped working after 3 flights the motor just sputters and then goes dead. I called customer service and explained what happened and the guy there says he thinks I burned it up. I told him I was using all the recommended equipement and he said I could have still burned it up. How I dont know when I used what they say to use and some of the other guys in here say they used bigger batteries than I did. The hobby shop guy said that I did everything right so Im confused and kinda pissed at customer service for telling me I could be at fault, I am sending the motor back and they are gonna look at it but I dont know what they will say.

North: I hope your turd is going well I know it is difficult to assemble.



animal acker -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/21/2008 3:02:03 AM)


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ORIGINAL: animal acker

Thank you paul I will try again. But now I have a real problem. The e-flite motor I was using stopped working after 3 flights the motor just sputters and then goes dead. I called customer service and explained what happened and the guy there says he thinks I burned it up. I told him I was using all the recommended equipement and he said I could have still burned it up. How I dont know when I used what they say to use and some of the other guys in here say they used bigger batteries than I did. The hobby shop guy said that I did everything right so Im confused and kinda pissed at customer service for telling me I could be at fault, I am sending the motor back and they are gonna look at it but I dont know what they will say.

North: I hope your turd is going well I know it is difficult to assemble.

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northchim -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/21/2008 3:39:50 AM)

animal: Is it possible that your new set up caused the motor to go south?



animal acker -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/21/2008 6:02:07 AM)

North: I do think it is possible now that I have been investigating things. I think the continuous max amps was too much for this motor whereas the old ammo motor I broke was beefier and could take it. Still, I followed the recommendations of the maker and would have thought they were safe. I may have learned a lesson the hard way.



sparky4166 -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/21/2008 2:28:59 PM)

Finally a decent morning. Five Sucessful Flights with my diablo. Stock single pod mounted on top. No Glitches. I'm so excited. First time I've actually put the plane back in the truck in one piece. [:D]



paul daniel -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/21/2008 10:15:04 PM)

Hi Guys: For those of you who are new to electrics, I strongly suggest one thing, well besides chucking the Diablo. You will find that you will not burn up motors and ESC's if you get a watt meter. If I remember, the stock set up with the Diablo has a 25 amp ESC so going over that for any extended period is going to cook the ESC or the motor or both or the battery. Trust me on this one, I've forgotten to check before a flight with a new set up and turned the battery into a potatoe. They cost about $50 and are well worth it.



sparky4166 -> RE: flyzone diablo (3/21/2008 10:22:34 PM)

I have rather enjoyed the challenges of the Diablo. I've been out of the hobby for almost 20 years and I always enjoyed building as much as flying. I started building a pt-40 about a month ago but purchased the diablo to fly while I built. It has been a little challenging with the glitches and such but I have enjoyed it anyway. I have an electristar on order that will be here Monday and I am looking forward to getting back in the air with a stable trainer to re-tune my skills but I am quite sure I will continue to fly the diablo on those calm morning when I'm running early on the way to the office. I also have a spare from scratch and dent I plan on using to teach my son to fly after he logs a few more hours on the sim. If I were buying again tomorrow knowing what I currently know I probably wouldn't buy the Diablo but on the other hand $80 bucks from scratch and dent is a pretty cheap way to start flying.
Sparky



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