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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 11/30/2007 5:39:32 AM   
FoamyVictim



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Status: offline 		I agree, it will impact it. It may even become a new class, which I would enjoy such no frills racing. The durability of 8th scale and the ease of electric. It would be great for beginners too. However, until they make them with brake bias, and I have seen it done, it's mainly a basher option.

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The only threat other threat to nitro is weedackers....the baja5 is simple, faster then nitros and more reliable...


I know a few guys with those, and they have one major problem. Space, it uses lots of it. You'd need a pretty big track to actually race those huge cars.

At our local track, where 8th scale buggies and truggies all have room to race 7 cars deep, the 5B can't get around it any where near as fast. I can't imagine what 7 of those things would look like. They might make fun bashers, but unless you have a pretty big track, they'd be allot slower than nitro 8th scales.

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 11/30/2007 6:42:43 AM   
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Status: offline 		This thread is almost funny with the way you are worring those terrible electric cars. The only way nitro will ever disapear in our life times is if some goverment agency decides that they are harmful to the enviroment. Like the exhaust and fuel and so on, but before that happens all gas and diesel running vehicles would go first.
So stop worring about it, if you don't want to go electric you don't have to. I like both electric and nitro and will probably refit my Turmoil to electric after I buy a Ofna Hyper 8.5 and my new OS 21, but then the Turmoil will be for bashing and racing if they ever open a class for electric buggys. I also fly both electric and glow/nitro heli's and fly glow airplanes and plan on buying a small electric plane soon. In planes and heli's electric have advantages and disadvantages. In my case I like to fly the Raptor much more than my
T-Rex but its hard to put the Raptor under the bunk of my semi and the Trex fits nicely and I don't have to worry about carring around all the extra gear and fuel needed for the Raptor.



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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 11/30/2007 12:18:38 PM   
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Status: offline 		There will be a choice for years and years to come. Just because nitro 1/8's is the slower class, does not mean the class will disappear. Over time, maybe. The thing is that fast guys always want to go faster. Many do not care about the noise, smell, tinkering/tuning issues. They just want to get the best lap times that they can.
Now, for those who are questioning gender, consider this. The electric vehicle is faster and you will get beat.
http://www.rctech.net/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=288043&d=1196003150
These are all electric entries from our race last weekend. The white MBX5T and white MBX5 are mine.

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 11/30/2007 1:02:08 PM   
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ORIGINAL: FoamyVictim

No doubt electric brushless cars will gain popularity, but replacing nitro is about as likely to happen as electric passenger jets...


I'd hold your breath on that one, duel fuel aircraft are being looked at seriously now. You only need the power of an engine to get up there atm, but soon it may be possibly to havea motor strong enough for a light aircraft to fly without a conventional engine.

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 11/30/2007 3:05:31 PM   
FoamyVictim



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Status: offline 		They already have a propeller version, I was referring to Jet Turbines. As far as I know, there are no propeller powered full scale planes that have the cruising speed or range of jet turbine powered aircraft.

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This thread is almost funny with the way you are worring those terrible electric cars.


We're not worried...like I said, most of us would welcome the electric versions. Then we'd tell them "Good Luck" in the 45 minute mains... they'd need their own class for the mains, and there won't be enough of them for a little while longer...at least around here.

People stop by the track on a regular basis to check out what's going on. During the 8th scale buggy and truggy classes, they're glued to the fence watching the action. Then an electric class starts, and the crowd thins out. I have nothing against electrics, I own a few, but they don't appeal to new people like the nitros.

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 11/30/2007 3:24:10 PM   
Da Smak


 

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ORIGINAL: FoamyVictim

They already have a propeller version, I was referring to Jet Turbines. As far as I know, there are no propeller powered full scale planes that have the cruising speed or range of jet turbine powered aircraft.



Ah but there is, and there has been for many years. The most likely thing to replace gas turbines though is the pulse engine, but still in it's infancy it's not quite up to the power requierements of a modest aircraft yet.

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 11/30/2007 4:24:32 PM   
FoamyVictim



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Status: offline 		I can't wait to see such a thing. I watched the Ram Jet project go down in flames, so hopefully NASA won't lose all its funding and have to scrap the idea. Imagine, a super-sonic, near orbital plane, getting you from New York to Japan in 2 hours!

Sorry for going so far off topic guys, but I'm a Discovery Channel Nerd!

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 12/1/2007 3:49:02 PM   
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Status: offline 		i dont like electric because of charge times and runtime.. back when i had my xxx4 i spent 70% of my time toting a charger, power supply,fans which was fine at the time it wasnt an issue i could dedicate a whole day to rc.. now all i need is my roto start glow igniter and some fuel in the tank..yesturday i got off at 4 it gets dark at 6 so i rushed home grabbed my car radio rotostart some fuel and my rotorstart and im off carrying everything in one trip.. i get to the track insert fuel and crank and have fun.. i was driving the car at 4:15.. that same scenario played out with electric i would have had to grab my tool box with all my chargers and crap. get there and setup all my stuff then start charging.. about an hour later im ready to go.. i dont have a whole day to dedicate to rc so nitro fits me...but the brushless are faster there is no denial there... but ill be running while hes charging f'ing batteries..

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 12/1/2007 9:48:14 PM   
Da Smak


 

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ORIGINAL: xxturbowesxx

i dont like electric because of charge times and runtime.. back when i had my xxx4 i spent 70% of my time toting a charger, power supply,fans which was fine at the time it wasnt an issue i could dedicate a whole day to rc.. now all i need is my roto start glow igniter and some fuel in the tank..yesturday i got off at 4 it gets dark at 6 so i rushed home grabbed my car radio rotostart some fuel and my rotorstart and im off carrying everything in one trip.. i get to the track insert fuel and crank and have fun.. i was driving the car at 4:15.. that same scenario played out with electric i would have had to grab my tool box with all my chargers and crap. get there and setup all my stuff then start charging.. about an hour later im ready to go.. i dont have a whole day to dedicate to rc so nitro fits me...but the brushless are faster there is no denial there... but ill be running while hes charging f'ing batteries..


You need 2 rotostarts? Damn thats a tough cookie to fire up.

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 12/2/2007 3:28:42 PM   
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ORIGINAL: xxturbowesxx
i dont like electric because of charge times and runtime.. back when i had my xxx4 i spent 70% of my time toting a charger, power supply,fans which was fine at the time it wasnt an issue i could dedicate a whole day to rc.. now all i need is my roto start glow igniter and some fuel in the tank..yesturday i got off at 4 it gets dark at 6 so i rushed home grabbed my car radio rotostart some fuel and my rotorstart and im off carrying everything in one trip.. i get to the track insert fuel and crank and have fun.. i was driving the car at 4:15.. that same scenario played out with electric i would have had to grab my tool box with all my chargers and crap. get there and setup all my stuff then start charging.. about an hour later im ready to go.. i dont have a whole day to dedicate to rc so nitro fits me...but the brushless are faster there is no denial there... but ill be running while hes charging f'ing batteries..

Sounds like old-school electric. With the new stuff, I could be ready just as fast and get more runtime than you in an average session...And woop you as well.

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 12/2/2007 5:38:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		This has been a big debate here in ohio. Most of the debate is should the 2 types of buggys be run at the same time.
My forum I started a poll to see what people thought on this. Not a plug for my forum: www.thedriversstand.com
I feel that electric conversions is a good thing and I will race both types. No way should nitro engine makers be worried about this change. This just gives more options for racers to use in their racing.
This race yesterday had 1 brushless buggy running with the nitros.

http://www.bumps-n-jumps.com/files/12_01_2007_M_Race_4_-_A_Main_-_1_8_scale_buggy.HTM

Gary johnson was running the brushless buggy.

In january at the indoor champs in columbus there will be a special race just for 1/8th buggys. This is to show people what this type of racing will be like with all electric buggys. I hear that they have over 10 entered at this point. There are several manifactures supporting this race.

I feel that both types will survive as some of us like nitro. But the 2 different power plants makes the class mixed up and they should be kept seperate because of the differences in mechanical aspects of the two. Nitro cars have a disadvantage when compared equally to a nitro.
You will see makers of cars coming out with kits that are all ready electric setup soon. Plan on it.

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 12/2/2007 6:32:59 PM   
Da Smak


 

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Status: offline 		Well yes, I think sticking them on the track at the same time would prove something...

1. The electrics would be quicker on the straights.

2. The nitros would be quicker through the twists.

3. The electrics would be quieter.

4. The electrics should win all the heats.

5 and most importantly. NO electric would ever win the main.

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RE: NOVAK will kill Nitro Engines !! - 12/2/2007 7:25:30 PM   
FlyinGN


 

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Status: offline 		good post. So.. the electric was over 4 seconds slower per lap.. interesting..

BUT I agree. They should have a nitro AND an electric 1/8 class. Everybody can be happy then...



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ORIGINAL: fz1

This has been a big debate here in ohio. Most of the debate is should the 2 types of buggys be run at the same time.
My forum I started a poll to see what people thought on this. Not a plug for my forum: www.thedriversstand.com
I feel that electric conversions is a good thing and I will race both types. No way should nitro engine makers be worried about this change. This just gives more options for racers to use in their racing.
This race yesterday had 1 brushless buggy running with the nitros.

http://www.bumps-n-jumps.com/files/12_01_2007_M_Race_4_-_A_Main_-_1_8_scale_buggy.HTM

Gary johnson was running the brushless buggy.

In january at the indoor champs in columbus there will be a special race just for 1/8th buggys. This is to show people what this type of racing will be like with all electric buggys. I hear that they have over 10 entered at this point. There are several manifactures supporting this race.

I feel that both types will survive as some of us like nitro. But the 2 different power plants makes the class mixed up and they should be kept seperate because of the differences in mechanical aspects of the two. Nitro cars have a disadvantage when compared equally to a nitro.
You will see makers of cars coming out with kits that are all ready electric setup soon. Plan on it.


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