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Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 11/29/2007 5:31:17 PM   
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1. I'm a nitro user now, and I'm putting this helpfull information out for though's who are wanting to start in this wonderfull hobby. This is some information I received from http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/forumid_472/tt.htm What I have is the 1/10 scale Exceed Xtreme Fire Green 2-Speed 4WD Nitro Gas buggy, now from what I have learned The first thing you need to do when you order your nitro car/truck/truggy is to get a starter kit http://www.nitrorcx.com/starterkit.html it will come with everything you need to get a nitro car/truck/truggy running except the fuel and 8 AA alkaline batteries for TX and 4 AA alkaline batteries for RX.


2. Use 20% fuel, If you don't have a hobby shop around where you live you can order it online, FACT they will not ship a gallon of it because it to dangerous, and a quart of fuel will do about 12 full tanks of a 75cc fuel tank and the first 5 full tanks you have to use to break in the motor, so I would get more then one quart at a time, it does take some time for them to deliver it, it can only be deliverd by ground usps, here is where I found you can get the fuel online cheap http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.php/cPath/1_67_764
Well they now can send 4 gallons at a time and at a really good price $79.99 for 4 gallons of Werks racing 20% fuel plus 20 doller hazmat fee.
http://www.amainhobbies.com/index.php/cPath/1_67_766?utm_source=november_23_newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=Newsletters

3. You will have to have extra glow plugs I have the .18cc motor which I was told that the OS A3 plug was good to use for this motor and thats what I got, you can order some from here, a very trust worthy company fast delivery as well, http://www.clermontmotorsports.com/servlet/the-279/OS-A3-plug/Detail

4. Breaking in the motor go by this thats what I did. http://www.redcatracing.com/quickstart.pdf

5. Engine Tuning Guide(works on any engine): http://www.redcatracing.com/tuningyourengine.asp

6. You have to have some filter oil and after run oil, get it here good price and fast delivery.
http://www.clermontmotorsports.com/servlet/the-Diff-fluids-fdsh-oils-fdsh-lubes-fdsh-glues/Categories

7. Now you will wreck your nitro car/truck/truggy at some point in time, so I would get some extra parts like Aluminum Shock absorbers, 2 Way Drive Clutch if you have a 2 speeder, dog bones, Front Lower and upper Arms, Now here is a list of websites you can order parts or nitro cars/trucks/truggy from, these websites are really good

http://www.clermontmotorsports.com/servlet/StoreFront

http://redcatracing.com/

http://allaboutfunhobbies.com/store/catalog/index.php

http://www.nitrorcx.com/

http://www.amainhobbies.com/


For the ones who live in Canada
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ORIGINAL: ehroof

Hey guys, just wanted to let you know that you can get parts from a canadian dealer/hobbyshop owner that carries redcat/exceed parts so you dont have to worry about international shipping charges anymore. He is getting his site up but for now, here is his email address: sebastien.tremblay@nitrospeedrc.com just email him with the part number you need or questions for now until he gets his site up and going. Hope this helps some of you guys out.



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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 11/29/2007 7:12:10 PM   
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The general rule regarding glow plugs and nitro fuel is:

The higher the nitro percentage, the colder the plug should be.

Conversely:

The lower the nitro percentage, the hotter the plug should be.



MC-4C: 4-cycle engines

MC-55: The MC-55 is considered a hot plug and is designed to run on fuel with a low nitro content. Applications for this plug would be planes, tether cars, etc.

MC-59: Like the MC-55, the MC-59 is considered a hot plug. The difference between the 55 and 59 is that the MC-59 is designed to run on fuel with a higher nitro content (low to medium nitro content) than the MC-55. Applications: Boats, planes, heilcopters, and cars.

MC-8: The MC-8 is a medium to cold plug, deisgned to run on fuels with a medium to high nitro content. Applications: Boats, cars, and planes.

MC-9: The McCoy MC-9 is considered a cold plug and is designed to run on fuels with a medium to high nitro content. Applications: Cars, boats, ducted fan and Giant Scale planes.

MC-14: The MC-14 is a hot plug, designed for helicopters and 4-stroke engines.

From reading just these bits of info on McCoy's plugs, you can easily see that general rule...if you're running fuel with a high nitro percentage, you should be using a glow plug that's considered to be a "cold" plug. Conversely, if you're running a low nitro content in your fuel, you should be using a "hot" plug.

The following are lists of OS and Novarossi plugs. These plugs follow the same nitro/heat range rules as demonstrated with the McCoy's plugs.

OS PLUGS

OSMG6300- #0 Economy standard plug similar to the O.S. #8.
OSMG6304- #1 Hot plug for low nitro (0-5%).
OSMG6308- #3 Medium plug for medium nitro (5-25%).
OSMG6312- #5 Cold plug for high nitro (25% +).
OSMG6316- #7 2 stroke engines requiring an idle bar.
OSMG2691- #8 "The" standard. For use in all 2 strokes, any nitro.
OSMG6320- #9 For general use in 2 stroke engines.
OSMG2692- #F For O.S and other four strokes.


Novarossi Plugs

10001 R1 Extra hot from .8 TO 2CC
10002 R2 Hot from2 TO 3.5CC
10003 R3 Medium from 3.5 TO 6CC
10004 R4 Cold from 6 TO 10CC
10005 R5 Extra cold for nitro fuel and RC
10006 R6 Cold for nitro from 10 - 13CC
10007 R7 Cold for nitro from 13 - 15CC
10008 R8 Super Cold for nitro from 15-30CC
10010 RC Hot for RC from 2.5 TO 6CC
10020 RC Cold for RC from 6 TO 15CC
10011 G1 Hot for R15 Speed
10022 G2 Medium for R15 Speed
10033 G3 Cold for nitro fuel from 18%-30% for R15 Speed.
10044 G4 Extra cold for nitro fuel from 30%-15% for R15 Speed
10055 G5 Extra cold for nitro fuel from 50%-70% for R15 Speed.


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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 11/29/2007 10:16:56 PM   
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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 11/30/2007 1:30:48 AM   
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Glad they made it a sticky, good job again on the info list.

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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 11/30/2007 3:13:09 AM   
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Status: offline 		Great information!!. I, and I am sure alot of us, appreciate it.
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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 11/30/2007 11:50:39 AM   
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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 11/30/2007 3:06:56 PM   
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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 12/6/2007 3:46:22 AM   
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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 12/6/2007 3:49:01 AM   
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http://www.clermontmotorsports.com/servlet/the-359/air-filter-oil%2C-traxxas/Detail
http://www.clermontmotorsports.com/servlet/the-365/Hobbico-After-run-oil/Detail

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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 12/16/2007 1:40:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I found this usefull when i first started out. It helps if you have trouble tuning. http://www.rc-truckncar-tuning.com/Glow-plug-reading.html

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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 12/19/2007 3:25:04 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could someone please help me out, I just purchased a nitrorcx car with the starter kit. My problem is I do not know where I am suppose to plug the charger to? I would like to breakin the car before I hand it over to my son. Thanks

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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 12/19/2007 4:27:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		pull the spring back on your glow charger and , with some strength, insert the end of the adapter into it and charge away. I'm sorry i don't know how long to charger it for....maybe a few hours.

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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 12/19/2007 7:18:29 PM   
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Status: offline 		Thanks!!!!! The instructions says to let it charge for at least 12hrs for the initial charge. My son and I both want to thank you.

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RE: Helpfull Information for new nitro users - 12/19/2007 8:07:05 PM   
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Status: offline 		it takes a bit of finesse to get the charger in at first. but after that its easy.