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FlyingChica -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (12/25/2007 6:03:51 PM)

Happy Holidays everyone!!




oldklaw -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (12/26/2007 6:42:21 PM)

Old Guy w/new toy,
Son of mine sent me a Walkera 5G4 for Christmas. Had it up about 10' and it keeps rotating. How do you trim this baby so I can steer it where I want to go?
Karl




GTX SlotCar -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (12/26/2007 6:51:36 PM)

Karl,
I'm not sure yours is the same as my 5#10, but in mine, the rudder trim needs to be centered before you plug in the heli battery. It seems that the receiver assumes whatever position the trim lever is in is neutral. If the lever is in the center, you can then move it left or right to trim the rudder as you fly. If it's too far to the left or right, you can only go the other way with it.
Try it and see if it works for you.




mikek0416 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (12/29/2007 7:12:23 PM)

5#10s back in stock




FlyingChica -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (12/30/2007 2:03:05 AM)

great for indoors. my place has radiators so I dont even have any air movement other than from the chopper




GTX SlotCar -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (12/30/2007 4:30:57 PM)

Sometimes the manufacturers do listen to what people want.

This first picture is from Nov, 2005, flying my Lama2 in my living room. At the time, this was one of the only coaxial helis you could buy.
Pictures 2 and 3 are of a home made canopy for my Lama "Sport" converion. The link to the full conversion is here http://www.rcuniverse.com/forum/fb.asp?m=3640176
Picture 4 is my Lama Sport flying in the living room in Dec. 2005.
Picture 5 is 2 years later, Dec. 2007, of my 5#10.

Basically, with the 5#10 Extreme, Walkera has manufactured what I was trying to make.




fireplug1111 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (12/30/2007 6:11:26 PM)

Mine too came with a broken skid. No biggie a little thread wrap and some CA and good as new. I fly mine in the Apparatus bay at our fire station. THE GUYS LOVE IT. I see them getting a few. I can get mine up to about 8 feet and set the TX down it sits in a motionless hover. AWESOME FOR LEARNING. I was flying patterns in the bay on about the second flight or so, something I could never do with a CP heli.
I was looking for some more on the web and I seen the same heli but it came with a 7.4 volt battery. This isnt correct is it????????
I will try and take some pictures of it flying at work today and post.
I LOVE THIS THING..
MIKE KEEP THEM IN STOCK.

ALAN




mikek0416 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (12/31/2007 7:52:31 PM)

We hope that you all have a safe and Happy New Year
Mike, Diana and the staff from Ka-Planes n' Kopters




fireplug1111 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/1/2008 12:46:54 AM)

Here are a few photos of my heli at work...




fireplug1111 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/1/2008 12:52:04 AM)

heres a video at work




mikek0416 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/1/2008 11:39:09 PM)

hi fireplug. I like your pics but could not find your video.

Mike




fireplug1111 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/2/2008 12:11:23 PM)

Yeah..... I know for some reason it did that and I didnt want it to do that. How do you load a video?

Alan




f451 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/2/2008 3:50:06 PM)

Hey,

My sons keeps spinning to the left. Even after trying to trim it out? Any secrets to stopping the spin or did we get a bad one?

A FireFighter in Michigan




GTX SlotCar -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/2/2008 4:19:34 PM)

f451, maybe post #28 (above) will help. Center the rudder trim before you turn on the Tx.





f451 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/3/2008 4:49:05 PM)

Thanks,
Tried that , but still spins to the right. Should both rotors spin up at the same time? One always starts then after quite a bit of throttle the othe starts.. Bad motor? Bad 3in1 controller? Also there is no end point on the screws on the 3 in 1 controller. You can keep turning forever...




GTX SlotCar -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/3/2008 5:30:19 PM)


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ORIGINAL: f451

Thanks,
Tried that , but still spins to the right. Should both rotors spin up at the same time? One always starts then after quite a bit of throttle the othe starts.. Bad motor? Bad 3in1 controller? Also there is no end point on the screws on the 3 in 1 controller. You can keep turning forever...


Sometimes the rotors start together, sometimes one starts before the other. Mine did the same as yours, but it doesn't now. I think it's because I center the trim before I turn anything on now. You could haved a bad motor, but it's not likely. A bad 4in1 is even less likely. The 4in1 is often the first thing we blame, but the last thing to be the actual problem. Many Walkera 4in1s have continuous trim pots. That means they go slowly from min. to max. and then abruptly start at min. again. They don't have a stop.
I'll try the trims on mine again when I get home tonight and let you know what I find out.




f451 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/4/2008 12:22:58 PM)

Thanks,
The boy is frustrated because it will hover, while spinning to the left. Its stable even when spinning. Just want to actually fly it and control it. Also is there a good time to get ahold of the people at Ka-Planes n' Kopters? I've tried calling from the day after Christmas and only get the answering machine? Would like to order a extra battey or two and any spares that we might need. Don't want to be down for a small breakage after him not being able to use it so far.




GTX SlotCar -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/4/2008 3:31:17 PM)

I tested it again. It does seem to center itself (or close to it) on the position of the trim lever. So, try centering the rudder trim, then turn on the Tx, then plug in the heli. Once you start it up, you should be able to use the trim to center the heli. Make sure you have a fully charged battery. I also noticed that when the battery runs down, the heli always rotates (clockwise, I think). These could be quirks in my particular heli, but I don't think so.

If this doesn't work, land the heli and shut off the throttle. Then try the rudder trim all the way left or all the way right while you apply power. See if the top rotor starts first with one trim setting and the bottom one on the other trim setting. Lets make sure your trim lever is working.

You don't need to call to order. All the parts are on their web site for online ordering. Don't know why nobody answers the phone. Some hobby shop employees ask for time off after Christmas, and local hobby shops can be swamped with business. Wives (or parents) don't know which heli to buy for Christmas, so they give money as a present and let the gift receiver buy his own. Full service hobby shops can be very busy setting up helis and planes for customers and working with them. Also, it could be the flu. I just had it, and it's a bugger. It just wouldn't let go. Ka-Planes just paid for a large order from us, so I'm sure they aren't going anywhere [:D]







freddonner -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/5/2008 1:34:38 AM)

I went to the shop today. Mike seems busy with walk-ins and tech questions and I swear Diana was answering the other phone over and over the entire time. You might want to check the number. He told me he is updating the shop in a few weeks so I will journey back over there then. By the way I bought some skids along woth BH parts and he was almost out skids.




fireplug1111 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/5/2008 3:20:54 AM)

F451:

This is my first experience with counter rotating blades. First make sure the top and bottom blades are spinning in opposite directions. Next the screws on the 3 n 1 I dont think are for trim adjustment. They are more for sensitivity,,, More or less throw on your servos. If you look at the servos there are not any control arms holes for placement of the control rods. The screws on the 3 n 1 will give you more or less servo arm travel. I am almost positive that it isnt the battery, however it could be but it would be my last guess. Here is what I would do And this will take a little explaining. Instead of changing motors, do the process of elimination. Unplug the motors from the 3 n 1 and the one for the top blade plug it in the bottom blade spot, and vis vrsa. HOWEVER you might have to reverse the plugs on the 3 n 1 just by turning them over. In other words on the plug you have a hot and ground wire and on the 3 n 1 you have a hot and ground output. Hot to Hot Ground to Ground. BUT you need to make it go Hot to Ground just by simply turning the plug over when plugging it in. If you dotn turn the plug over the blades will spin backwords becouse the 3 n 1 still thinks its turning the top blades and the bottom blades.
After doing that run it up real slow and see what it does. If it does the same thing BAD MOTOR. If it still spins but spins the opposite direction ( due to motor leads being changed ) then bad 3 N 1.
That is just my theory,,,,,
I hope this helps and if not Im working overtime tomorrow you can call me. Ill try to help you as much as possible.

Alan 407 580 1333




GTX SlotCar -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/5/2008 4:33:00 AM)

I don't think he believes the battery is bad. The reason that I mention using one that's fully charged is because a battery with low voltage will make the heli spin. Not just this heli, but also my Lama and all the FP helis that I have. So, trying things to stop if from spinning when the battery is low won't do any good, and it could just be a low battery to begin with.

Switching the motors wires on the 4in1 will throw off the gyro and cause the heli to spin. Hmmm.... OK....

F451, go to the 4in1 and swap the motor connectors so the top and bottom ones are in reverse order. Keep the polarity the same. In other words, the wires should be:
white
pink
pink
white

It could be that the factory put them in backward. If so, your heli will spin as the gyro keeps trying to compensate - applying power to the wrong motor. In fact, your heli will spin full blast.

I'll try it on mine and post a picture of the connectors.




GTX SlotCar -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/5/2008 4:45:49 AM)

OK. In the picture below, the green circle is where the motor connectors are. The connector for the front motor should be on top. The front motor controls the lower rotor.
I switched my connectors so the front motor was on the bottom, and my heli did spin clockwise - full speed at almost all throttle settings.




mikek0416 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/5/2008 3:32:23 PM)

f45a sent you a PM a couple of days ago. We answer all calls between 10and 6pm edt and emails all the time, give us a shout or email. The Christmas and most of December's 5#10s were all pre-tested at the shop so the wiring should be ok.
Mike




f451 -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/7/2008 12:23:43 PM)

Thanks.
Will check it out later today. Was too busy to get to the computer or heli this weekend. But I understand what your saying about reversing the plugs and flipping them to get the right rotation. That might be it because it really spins. Cross your fingers that might be it. And by the way thanks for all the help so far everyone. I made a mistake and bought it from Bananahobby. Those people are a PITA, won't answer the phone. Had me send pictures and the never returned phone calls or emails. Found out to late they have a very bad rep.
Bob




FlyingChica -> RE: Walkera 5#10 (1/11/2008 6:09:49 PM)

I have been enjoying this helicopter indoors and may look to get a FP type helicopter this spring.




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