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New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 11/30/2007 4:13:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just checked Fox's web site and there's two new CL models. A ceramic variation on the traditional Stunt 35 and a new ceramic 60. The ceramic Stunt 35 claims to be 9% lighter and 300-500rpm faster. Both are somewhat pricy.
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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 11/30/2007 4:20:10 PM   
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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 11/30/2007 10:23:49 PM   
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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 12/1/2007 2:07:23 AM   
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Status: offline 		To my way of thinking the Norvel system was the better way to do it with the integral cooling fins instead of a slip in liner because there was a direct heat transfer path. But whichever way it's done I believe ceramics will be the next step up from ABx types. Saturn Hobbies here in Australia started doing replacement ceramic liners (made in Russia) for quite a wide range of engines many years ago but sadly Tony Cincotta has closed his business for some reason .

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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 12/4/2007 3:53:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: downunder

To my way of thinking the Norvel system was the better way to do it with the integral cooling fins instead of a slip in liner because there was a direct heat transfer path. But whichever way it's done I believe ceramics will be the next step up from ABx types. Saturn Hobbies here in Australia started doing replacement ceramic liners (made in Russia) for quite a wide range of engines many years ago but sadly Tony Cincotta has closed his business for some reason .



As I remember reading, He closed the business down after he got robbed for the second time.
Dennis

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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 12/4/2007 6:31:52 PM   
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Status: offline 		In any respect of who did what first, it is nice to Fox exploring new ideas.

That .60 does seem a bit pricey and not in immediate future but where it goes from here is anybodys guess.

cheers, Graham

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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 12/4/2007 11:23:34 PM   
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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 12/5/2007 1:28:04 AM   
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Status: offline 		Several club members and I are expecting to receive some of the new P/L sets shortly. Fox said they have to match up the liners and pistons to get the correct fit before sending any more out.

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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 12/6/2007 2:25:29 PM   
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Russians did this at least 7 years ago.



The Russians produced a ceramic liner Fox 35 seven years ago? Amazing......

Not surprised. They designed the DC-3 and produced them for years. And the B-17 and B-29. Actually, lots of things that they got their hands on.

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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 12/9/2007 4:28:14 PM   
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Status: offline 		If I'm remembering correctly the Russian piston/cylinder replacements for the Fox 35 were an ABC configuration and not ceramic. Somebody in Australia was producing a ceramic replacement for a while but the actual size went down to around a .32 displacement. From what I hear they are extremely durable.

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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 12/14/2007 4:03:13 AM   
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RE: New Ceramic liner Foxes - 35 and 60's - 12/15/2007 8:02:47 PM   
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