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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/24/2003 9:57:29 AM   
PlaneKrazee



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Status: offline 		Mr. Polk,

Can you redesign the gimbals when you switch to the newer software?

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/24/2003 1:40:42 PM   
Lewis Polk


 

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Status: offline 		Please repeat why we should re-design the gimbals? I think they are the best on the market. I may have missed and earlier post.

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/24/2003 2:45:29 PM   
CWLWL


 

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Status: offline 		Does anyone happen to confirm the disability of trim in slave channel even send back to updates? I think that Mr Polk should give a more definite answer in this respect, because many users, like me, take time to send back may just hope to get this right. If the answer is negative, then maybe I won't choose to pack it up to send and look for another option.

DL

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/24/2003 3:23:26 PM   
Lewis Polk


 

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Status: offline 		This is a software issue, not a gimbal change that is hardware.

I explained that we need a larger memory in our chip to include trim memory as slaves and can't do it now. We will make a new board with a larger chip in the future.

Yours truly,
Lewis Polk

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/24/2003 4:30:25 PM   
causeitflies



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Status: online 		Just my thoughts on some of the Tracker II issues.

I think Polks really missed the boat with the mixes. I discovered after I ordered my Tracker that I couldn't use dual channel elevator control and have proper trims. Bummer. There's no reason to have a mix and not have the option for trim following. I'll be using Hitec digitals so that problem is solved. Some of the electric guys think this is totally useless (no trim following) but obviously they don't fly aerobatic planes where, for instance, one may need to mix some elevator with rudder for knife edge flight. If I mix elevator with my rudder I sure don't want my elevator trim to change when I trim the rudder. But, there should be an option to do just that if I want to. There are times when trim following is needed and times when it is not. Out of memory for this feature?

I think the programmed mixes work pretty much as they should individually if you use one at a time. Most of my planes will never use these mixes but some will. To use more complicated mixes most radios take the 3 mode route for aero, heli, and glider. Is this one way to save memory? Will I need these types of mixes in the future? Possibly. I still have my JR and old Prizm for any oddball configurations. But for the all around sport flying that I do the most, the Tracker will suffice. This is the target market for the Tracker. Half the guys I fly with have never owned a computer radio and this would be a good choice.

At first the gimbals on the Tracker did seem a little stiff to my liking. No problem just go in and loosen them up. That was the plan but the more I flew it the more I liked it. It gives me more feedback to where the sticks are. At first I didn't like the hard detente at center. Again, the more I used it the more I liked it. I can snap the sticks back faster than the spring and hit dead center without overshooting. Personal preference.

Are all the knobs and switches easy to reach? No. Is there an assignable switch for EXPO? No. Any other low end or mid range radio have a built in scanner? No. Anything else I would want? Probably. At the same price? Uhmm...probably not.

I'm flying 8 planes with the Tracker and so far it has performed very well. Not a single glitch with planes from electric to gasoline, park-flyer to 31%. When asked at a fly-in what channel I had, my answer was, "Any one I want."

Of course the Seeker receiver is outstanding. Nuff said.

Maybe the next Tracker will be better or maybe other Manufacturers will follow Polks' lead and produce synthesized radios for the masses. For now this radio will do for me.

Just my opinion so far.

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/24/2003 10:24:41 PM   
PlaneKrazee



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Status: offline 		Mr. Polk,

With the gimbals on my transmitter the spring tension gets stronger the farther they are moved from center, this is not correct. The spring tension on all of the other transmitters I own stay the same thoughout the range of motion.

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/25/2003 2:30:48 AM   
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Status: offline 		I am following this thread with great interest. I have been able to have my hands on the radio at a lhs and liked the way it felt as wel as what appeared to be its features. I like most of the folks posting here have a problem with the mix interactions, to be more correct the lack of interaction.

I like the concept of the Tracker II and will be glad to buy one when the mixing abilities of the radio get to a level with the other eight channel computer radios.

The fact that it has a scanner in the radio is nice, but does not make up for the lower level of features compared to JR and Futaba.

I hope that this radio line can survive but it will need some work.

Take care Jim

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/25/2003 4:17:49 AM   
CWLWL


 

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Status: offline 		Hello Mr. Lewis Polk,

Thank you for your reply as stated on #279 in regarding the possibiiblity of resume of full trim functions of PMIX.
Since I am out on a trip and leave the package for them to send, but I found that my colleague has sent the packed unit to you for inspections and updates(with some minor defects/it's a v1,13 though)BEFORE I saw the reply.So it is on its way to you. Can you update it with your LATER LARGER CHIPS so that the above-said drawback can be corrected.
I do not need the tx in hurry, so you can have the LARGER CHIP altered according to your schedule. Do you reckon this is the possible way to work this problem out?

By the way, I really hope that you and the tracker can be a big success in the coming future. I concur that the current tracker is still a good radio as long as its major issue, the programmabilty is consummated.

DL

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/25/2003 6:59:23 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Terror Dactyl

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The fact that it has a scanner in the radio is nice, but does not make up for the lower level of features compared to JR and Futaba.

I hope that this radio line can survive but it will need some work.

Take care Jim



I agree. The channel scanner and selector are great, but do not make up for the lack of features found in most other 8-channel transmitters.

In addition to having the mixes work correctly, I would hope that the next edition of the Tracker would also include two other features contained in the Futaba 8U. To me, both are essential.

(1) The two ON_SCREEN timers, one of which can be set to start when the throttle is advanced, and

(2)Model names (not just numbers).

If the Tracker III can become truly competitive with JR and Futaba 8-channel radios in terms of their existing features AND add channel scanning/selection, I think it might capture a huge market share. The major problem obtaining market acceptance, however, would likely be the fact that neither the original Tracker nor the Tracker II lived up to its advertising. Thus, there will be great pressure for Mr. Polk and Company to really "get it right" on their third try.

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/25/2003 12:24:33 PM   
PlaneKrazee



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Status: offline 		Mr. Polk,

Please respond to post #281.

Thank you

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/25/2003 12:26:14 PM   
PlaneKrazee



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Status: offline 		Mr. Polk,

If I try to lessen the gimbal spring tension the sticks get sloppy around center and will not center properly.

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/26/2003 5:42:55 PM   
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Status: offline 		There is a RCU Magazine review by Nathan Matt (Plane Insane) of the Tracker II containing the following statement:

"Functionality is as good as any other 8 Channel radio on the market today."

There is no mention whatsoever of the many functional shortcoming discussed in this thread.

Guess this shows the value of RCU Magazine reviews.


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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/26/2003 8:18:53 PM   
CWLWL


 

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Status: offline 		I take a quick look of the so called REVIEW, it may misleasd many potential buyers and may lead to further arguement . I'd suggested Mr POLK to revise their ads. here. Its a pity if customers losing further confidence in Polks' after REVEALED THAT what they get is such a malfunctioned radio as described in this thread.
I seriously doubt the RCU reviewers on their product REVIEWs.I always think that most of the reviews can be done quicker by just referring to the links of advertisers.
I always do some search in the forums in the net rather than believe in the SO-CALLED PRODUCT REVIEWS before make decisions to buy. It is good in this era to have internet so that we are able to take more infos and compare. I bought my MPX 4000 with no regrets with many helps and opinions from friends here, e.g Mr.HARRY C. .
I bought the tracker for Polky's services and curiosity but am quite disappointed for what its functionality. But hoping that the t2 can be improved in current programmabilty issues after UPDATES. If it still cannot be improved , then I am going to give it to my friend's son for getting into the hobby.
So how many of you are going to sell or return the tracker2 ? I've noticed that some has been appeared in the sales or auctions corners of various sites.

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RE: There is a tracker ll - 9/26/2003 9:09:05 PM   
Lewis Polk


 

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Status: offline 		Dear Brian,

The gimbals are fully adjustable at 3 points and the tension is equal if set correctly. We have many world class pilots not having a problem with our gimbals. If you continue to have a problem send it in and we will adjust it for you.

We have sold thousands of radios with this gimbal and without complaint until yours. Anything can happen in assembly, so it must be something perculiar to your set. We will fix it if it is.

Yours truly,
Lewis Polk

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