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Sundowner 50 Arf - 12/9/2007 1:05:31 PM   
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What do you think about this http://www.horizonhobby.com/Products/Default.aspx?ProdID=HAN4725
Due out mid Jan I may have give it a try.and compare it to my Minnow

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 12/9/2007 3:27:08 PM   
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Looks nice but for the price I would rather have something in a 60 sized like the little toni or midget mustang.

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 12/9/2007 4:23:55 PM   
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Well it does have a 60" span, so maybe you could wedge in a .90?

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 12/9/2007 5:36:27 PM   
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phjocker:

This bird with a 40-52 2stroke engine would be a faster than average sport plane with a 60" span, and generally fly like a sport model. In general, that would not be acceptable to the "Brotherhood" who would by nature be forced to stuff something a little quicker, like say a 60 just to perk it up a little bit. Looks like a mod to 90 would take some doing, and be a little heavy. Most of the "Bro's" stuffed 90's into the GP Little tony's and similar sized offerings, but were generally disapointed on the top end. I and a Bro. had Jett 90's in ours, too much frontal area to make them what we call fast. Fast is relative to each of us. Something around 120mph shood get your juces going. The National circut racer types will not get excited until around 200mph in general. Not a unusual speed for the top quickees and foumula type birds. The giant unlimiteds will get up to 230-250 on occasion. A good groving set up quickee is flyable by most at 200, becomes a handfull if not near prfect. The question is likely to be answered differently by almost each of us depending on age, experience and skills. ENJOY

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 12/9/2007 9:51:03 PM   
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I was thinking pretty much the same thing...that it would probably be about like that Nemesis (what is it, World Models? )
A good .61 minimum...

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 12/10/2007 2:19:47 PM   
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Ok..... looks very nice! Id buy one of these.

And I commend Horizon for showing the 2-c engine installation as a baseline!!! Big hi-5 there!

(most manuals/pictures for other aircraft chicken-out and show a simple 4-c install)

But 6.5 lbs, 600 sq inches... talking 90LX power here

Likely the Toni muffler kit will work nicely. But it would be useful to see the firewall area first.


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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 12/30/2007 11:15:38 PM   
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Would a YS 1.10 fit like when shoe horn them in the WM Dago Reds.

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 1/11/2008 6:44:15 AM   
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the release date for this plane should be soon. I and stuck between this Sundowner and a Midget Mustang. The price is about the same. I looking to put a tower .75. How will this combo match up with the sundowner. I like speed and looking to go 100+++.


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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 1/11/2008 11:01:16 PM   
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I just put mine on order. Should be in next week according to LHS. Looking to put a YS 63 in it. Could probably easily accommodate a YS110 but it should still be a pretty fun sport plane and have plenty of pep with a 63. Keeping the weight down with a 63 should make it very agile and make landings easy. I'll let everyone know how she flies with that YS 63 when I get her up (hopefully last week in January). I look forward to hearing about other configurations. Please let me know if someone does put a 110 on it.

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 1/12/2008 4:38:41 AM   
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I put one on order with HH. Do anyone know when it will be release That YS should make this baby cook


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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 1/18/2008 12:50:57 PM   
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I just got my Sundowner in yesterday. ALL the controll surfaces came prehinged and control horns installed except for elevators(because sab needed to be instaled first). This plane is 99.999% built out of the box. My friends make fun of me for ARFing and never building. This is more built than even most H9 Kits. This thing is intense though!!! covering looks great and what's left of build came together pretty quickly. I look foward to getting her in the air. She'll maiden with the YS 63 on Sunday and I'll let people know how she does. All I can say is she's light, clean, sturdy with a design that supports minimal drag. The pics don't do her justice.

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 1/18/2008 1:37:47 PM   
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Good luck with the maiden. Don't forget the pictures!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 1/19/2008 12:43:36 AM   
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do they have them CA hinges, I hate them


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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 1/19/2008 3:04:55 AM   
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Anybody know the weight of a ys 63? I was thinking of using a os 75 ax. Weight on the os is 26 ounces with muffler. I am just worried about weight and cutting out half the cowl to get it to fit. OS claims the 75 is almost the same size as a 61.

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 1/19/2008 4:17:59 PM   
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I'd go for the .91 FX if I was even considering the .75 AX. If I'm not mistaken I believe the .91 is lighter. And with exception to the muffler, is the exact same size as the .61 FX.

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RE: Sundowner 50 Arf - 1/20/2008 1:30:17 AM   
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Picked up the bird today from LHS. Covering is flawless. Can't decide if standard ball bearing servos would be sufficient or if I should get high torque units. Planning on using .55 AX. Cowl is huge, .75 AX would fit easily.

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