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can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/16/2007 10:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		I saw this aircraft this morning at the local airport. Wondering what it is.

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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/16/2007 10:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Looks like a Long EZ. A composite aircraft developed by Burt Rutan. Also from http://www.velocityaircraft.com/airabout.html

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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/16/2007 12:04 PM   
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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/16/2007 8:36 PM   
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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/16/2007 9:49 PM   
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i would be wondering where the nose wheel is


You have to retract the nose wheel to get in and out.

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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/17/2007 8:33 AM   
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Status: offline 		It's a Vari EZ or a Long EZ, cant tell for certain which one. Also, with the three blade prop, it COULD be a Berkut, which is basically just a modified, higher performance version of the Long EZ. I always loved these aircraft, they are REAL performers if they're built right.

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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/17/2007 8:35 AM   
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Status: offline 		Why would they retract the nose wheel like this? Even if its for repair, shouldnt it be supported correctly with something underneath the nose?

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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/17/2007 5:46 PM   
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Status: offline 		I think the EZ aircraft have a tendency to tip back on the main gear without the pilot/passenger installed as ballast. It is standard operating procedure to rest on their nose and provisions are in order for resting in that state. To enter the aircraft,the pilot firsts lifts the nose and extends the nose gear. Being careful not to let the aircraft tip back onto the rudders or propeller, then hops in.

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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/17/2007 10:40 PM   
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Why would they retract the nose wheel like this? Even if its for repair, shouldnt it be supported correctly with something underneath the nose?


Standard operating procedure when nobody is in the cockpit.






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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/18/2007 3:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		I and a friend built a Long-Eze, starting in 1981 and finished around 1989. The nose down parking served several purposes. Mainly, as mentioned is the tendency to fall back without pilot weight. Also it may help while tied down, resisting wind gusts. It is also retracted in the air for drag purposes. Rutan felt that a retractable nose gear was worth the effort as a drag penalty but the mains would add to much complexity and weight to the design and was therefore deemed not worth the additional effort. During building the bottom of the nose at the ground contact point is fitted with a metal and/or rubber shoe as a sort of sacrificial piece to take the scrapes when lowered. As a side note there have been a few cases of pilots either forgetting to lower the nose gear or the gear not locking completlely and as the aircraft slowed on rollout the nose gently dropped onto the shoe acting as a pretty effective brake with no damage to the airframe. Forgetting something. I'll edit later if my old feeble mind remembers.

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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/18/2007 10:05 AM   
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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/18/2007 2:34 PM   
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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/24/2007 8:01 PM   
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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/27/2007 8:28 PM   
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Did John Denver own 1 of these?


No he was "owned" by one of these!

http://www.airsafe.com/events/celebs/denver.htm

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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 12/27/2007 8:56 PM   
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I and a friend built a Long-Eze, starting in 1981 and finished around 1989. The nose down parking served several purposes. Mainly, as mentioned is the tendency to fall back without pilot weight. Also it may help while tied down, resisting wind gusts. It is also retracted in the air for drag purposes. Rutan felt that a retractable nose gear was worth the effort as a drag penalty but the mains would add to much complexity and weight to the design and was therefore deemed not worth the additional effort. During building the bottom of the nose at the ground contact point is fitted with a metal and/or rubber shoe as a sort of sacrificial piece to take the scrapes when lowered. As a side note there have been a few cases of pilots either forgetting to lower the nose gear or the gear not locking completlely and as the aircraft slowed on rollout the nose gently dropped onto the shoe acting as a pretty effective brake with no damage to the airframe. Forgetting something. I'll edit later if my old feeble mind remembers.



That exact thing happened a few years ago at my local airport. I witnessed a long eze make a beatufil landing on the mains - but I noticed the nose gear was not down. After the plane skidded to a stop, the pilot got out, extended the nose gear and took off. The plane (apart from some scuffed up paint) was undamaged. Apparently he didn't want to come in and get ridiculed for his mistake - I can't blame him.

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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 1/3/2008 1:16 AM   
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No he was "owned" by one of these!


thats not nice

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RE: can someone recognize this aircraft - 2/20/2008 11:25 PM   
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