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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 7:03 AM

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scott - thanks for the tips on cleaning. ill go ahead and change out my tips, or clean them up some, and possibly look into getting a 60watter to try out.

And don't forget the sponge ! I'am constantly wiping my irons butt on that wet piece ! A must have.....

Plus I'll even use the moist sponge to apply to the wires or connections directly after I'am soldering for a quick "cool-down" so to speak...

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Hey, you can practice soldering and start cutting away servo, gyro, esc and all those wires to get them shorter

lets not get carried away now lmao.. nah i would love to shorten everthing up, as i have gobs of wire everywhere. i havnt figured out how to do that yet though. i do still need to trim down my fins. at least the horizontal one. i trimmed it down on the other 450, and now i dont even like the way it looks with the whole fin back there, so i will deffinately pull it off and trim it down. if i was to replace that 520 with a 420, that would knock a big chunk of that 26g's out. the b400 has all small light servos. just the diffs in the servo weights, is prollly the diff between these 2 helis. the sport runs the ds420 for a tail servo. i checked out the weights and there was a big diff. the pro runs the ds520. the 420 is pretty cheap too. only like 27 bux.

i got the castle link software downloaded on my laptop, and also changed the programing on the esc's. took all of about a minute. very nice being able to do that. im anxious to get out and fly. i really wanna see what kind of info the ice data logger gives me. i kinda wanna through that -6 in the #2 lmao... in time im sure i will.

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 8:09 AM

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Jon ~

I watched your video earlier ! Dang, it looks almost like a tinge of snow on the ground.... All that rain eh...?! That thing seems like it has a nice power to weight ratio BTW... Waiting for that Auto with her still............................... Oh...! BTW, the other night RCU was down because I couldn't get on either at that time for a few hours like you asked a page or so back.... Heh....

Actually what looks like snow is actually where they have cut the grass since yesterday! I think the blades are blunt because it is slashed rather than cut hence why it looks glossy like that. Believe it or not the water has gone and I even knelt on the grass and didn't get a wet knee!

My neighbour does what you do Jeff and yesterday ran over a push-bike part on a customers lawn and buggered his mower. $250 to fix! Not happy.

Yeah yeah yeah.... the auto's will come!

I want to backflip first and get comfortable with the 550. i watched a vid earlier of a guy who progressed from Blade to a Gaui 550 and he said that it was so much easier on the 550 to flip, loop and roll.

I like readin what you guys are doing with your Castle Ice speedies. I am going to have to get one. Do they still do the 80 amper you have Jeff? It seems as though on their site they have 50, 75, 100 from menory and there are the Pheonix Lite and the normal. but I would like to get some data logging. Other than the speedie and the software is that all you need (+ a USB cable too I guess???

I have charged all my batteries at work today. With the one charger it's taken forever but at least it's plodding away while i am [sort of] busy.

Eddie ~ if you get your B400 up and going that's quite an impressive fleet you will have there Dude! I gotta get me another now. the B400 is sounding a little ropy even though it's mostly new parts. Compared to the nice buzz of those Align 450's it is anyway.

Night night boys. friday arvo here and almost Bourbon time... yeeeeeee haaaaaaa!

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 9:05 AM

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seems my "pitch guage" worked pretty good on setting the blades to zero, even with out a flybar lock.....

Ok.... Gonna rib ya again, so brace yourself !

Seriously though, I have no problem setting my flybar level, and eyeing down the main blade, looking at the leading edge and then at the trailing edge and seeing if its at 0 pitch or level...?? Really... I can tell if the blade is half a link off or what not ? Just seems like to much time to grab the pitch gauge and have the chunky bulky thing in the way ya know ? It could be I'am very use to doing it with the CPP for so long possibly i'am guessing... Dunno...

So then, how do you guys get your flybar paddles level with the washout arms...? Please don't say you use the pitch gauge ???

And if you say you eye it, then what's the diff again from just doing it on the main blades again...?

If there is a question on whether the flybar is level, or if I feel dizzy in the head, I'll grab a simple "line-Level", actually two so they weigh out the same on the bar, and throw it up, the flybar is then level, and they I eye the blades.... I've always used good quality CF blades though, and even starting out and so that could be making it easier to see if there true and level at 0 degree's of pitch though ? Just a guess....

Yeah, I can't wait for some field flights with the new 450 ! You'll really like it... You'll find that with the less weight, it will turn better and perform better all around... Less collective needed to keep it floating also you'll find. Do some loops !

Jon ~

They still sell the regular Phoenix controllers (Castle) at almost all the popular sites like A-Main, Helidirect, HeliProz, Readyheli etc. etc. Even the 80 amper... The 80 amper goes for about $135.00... So much better to go with the new Castle ESC's... You get so much more, and there even lighter for that matter... Top notch stuff !

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 10:07 AM

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Dave - I'm not sure if anybody mentioned Loctite! Must have. I've talked to Gary (SuperSkids) & Ivan (9sec240) a lot about setups & they are both convinced that it is critical to get it "right" to fly well & it makes it easier (I can attest to that 1st hand!). I don't mean to speak for them. but they've convinced me! Now if I could just figure out how to do it! Good luck. The 450 is something else to fly & GREAT FUN. If you can fly the FP pretty well, the move to the 450 should be smooth! Did you ever manage FFF with the FP?

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To see what I mean watch this vid. I'd kill to get my 300 to fly that well.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AdaBX3eJS-4&feature=player_embedded

Chuck ~

You don't have to die to get yours to fly like that !

If you want it to hover great like Gary showed in his video then go inside where there is no wind, get those heavier SuperSkids to help lower the center of gravity for stability and get those EZ Blades he's promoting in the video, & stay in normal mode with the tamer headspeed. No reason why yours shouldn't do the same taking what you've learned and applying it. Really.... I think you should try those blades.... Like Gary quotes about those blades is one of the keys to hovering success "SuperBlades EZ excel at hovering and slow speed stability and are designed to help beginners learn how to fly and encourage them to stay with the hobby. They are not designed for fast forward flight (FFF). EZ have lots of lift with stock motors and gears."

Now if your going outside and you are wanting to fly, grab the XP Blades "SuperBlades XP are for intermediate and advanced pilots and excel at fast flight and handling. XP have shallower pitch (less lift). While they can work with stock motors, gears and 2S LiPo if the helicopter is light enough, they're normally used with a 12T pinion on the stock motor, or a faster motor, or a 3S LiPo battery."

The same principle can then be applied to your 450... Like you saw Gary do in his video for the hands off, he wasn't in idle up until the end when he then had his hands on the TX. So for your 450 if you want a mellow graceful machine keep a lower headspeed... Put a shorter flybar on, heavier paddles to slow the response down, add some Expo to soften the sticks at center, install some heavier skids which the SuperSkids are good, or the Align bump Resistance ones I told ya about before, as there heavier also to provide a lower CG for stability, get rid of the 325mm blades and throw on a set of 335mm blades to create a lower Disc-Loading and also provide added stability, and make sure your head is all set properly and you will be amazed ! If you want better hovering ability like in Gary's video for the 450, you then could go for some of those flat bottom style of blades instead of the symmetrical's. Just watch it in the wind though ! Different variables (like blades) are going to give you different results...

And if your now using the longer blades you could go for a heavier battery to increase the weight now to assist also in some stability. The longer blades will help lift the extra load... Maybe even drop the pinion size down to help slow things down, and to help with the additional weight for that matter. The heavier it is, the more stable it is...

A good quality machine with good quality components is also the other half as well to the equation... I agree a good set-up heli is going to provide results, but you can't polish a turd no matter how many hours a gent is caught "setting up" his heli. So don't go cheap, or you get cheap results hands down, and you will always be fighting a battle...

Even back when I first got my Trex and even had the right tools like a pitch gauge or ball-link pliers, with quality comes satisfaction. And back then I didn't know squat. I didn't learn on woodies, but even CF because I'am big on that, and just take things slow to avoid the expense in crashing. 3 sets of CF blades in 2 years was worth the less headaches. Those blades in the videos below are also the shorter 315mm CF MAH's, and so some stability was even lost and it also increased the Disc-Loading because of there smaller size. Back then the Trex weighed 860 grams. Now it weighs 722 grams. The extra weight provides stability for learning. I was even running the huge standard size Futaba 9254 on the wrong side of the boom, and didn't know any better that the servo was to big for the tail back then !

My point is, the stuff you've learned and acquired being in this hobby now needs to be applied, and you'll have no worries achieving success, or dying to get your heli to fly !

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These videos were back in Dec of 07' when I first got the 450 :

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_m0INC_MkLk

But ya might have to wait until spring though..................... (LMAO).....................

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 3:39 PM

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seems my ''pitch guage'' worked pretty good on setting the blades to zero, even with out a flybar lock.....

Ok.... Gonna rib ya again, so brace yourself ! Seriously though, I have no problem setting my flybar level, and eyeing down the main blade, looking at the leading edge and then at the trailing edge and seeing if its at 0 pitch or level...?? Really... I can tell if the blade is half a link off or what not ? Just seems like to much time to grab the pitch gauge and have the chunky bulky thing in the way ya know ? It could be I'am very use to doing it with the CPP for so long possibly i'am guessing... Dunno...

So then, how do you guys get your flybar paddles level with the washout arms...? Please don't say you use the pitch gauge ??? And if you say you eye it, then what's the diff again from just doing it on the main blades again...?

If there is a question on whether the flybar is level, or if I feel dizzy in the head, I'll grab a simple ''line-Level'', actually two so they weigh out the same on the bar, and throw it up, the flybar is then level, and they I eye the blades.... I've always used good quality CF blades though, and even starting out and so that could be making it easier to see if there true and level at 0 degree's of pitch though ? Just a guess....

Yeah, I can't wait for some field flights with the new 450 ! You'll really like it... You'll find that with the less weight, it will turn better and perform better all around... Less collective needed to keep it floating also you'll find. Do some loops !

Jon ~

They still sell the regular Phoenix controllers (Castle) at almost all the popular sites like A-Main, Helidirect, HeliProz, Readyheli etc. etc. Even the 80 amper... The 80 amper goes for about $135.00... So much better to go with the new Castle ESC's... You get so much more, and there even lighter for that matter... Top notch stuff !

hahahaha, i knew that was comin lol. ur right, i eye my paddles, i guess its easier doing it on the paddles since you have the flybar cage right there for ref. on getting them straight. ive actually never tried to eye the pitch. i mean i can see for the most part when they are not at zero, its just easier for me to slap a guage on there real quick and see. i know how many turns i need on the link for how manny degrees its off. so it actually is pretty quick. it s pretty close to 1 degree per full turn. so if its 3 degrees off, i know i can turn it 3 full turns and its gonna be pretty darn close, check it again to make sure, or fine tune. then its set.

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 5:08 PM

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hahahaha, i knew that was comin lol. ur right

Eddie ~

LMAO.... Never a matter of if.... Just when... Lol !

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I guess its easier doing it on the paddles since you have the flybar cage right there for ref. on getting them straight. ive actually never tried to eye the pitch.

That's how I do the main blades also, is since the flybar is directly in my line of sight, I get eye level with the blades in relation to the flybar and check for 0 pitch. We all have our own knacks, but this way just seems more accurate to me is all I guess. Because since the gauge is out of the way and off the blade, I step back eye level and can see very clearly if the flybar is level with key objects like the main shaft mount, locking collar, washout etc. etc. And then eye the blade to see that its square level and at 0 degrees very quickly. I only use the gauge for setting my ranges then. Just my thang ya know...? !

Its funny, but I never even used the gauge starting out with the Trex. I never set my idle up pitches because just starting out, I didn't need any negative pitches configured into the equation... I wasn't planning on doing any Tic-Tocs, or inverted flying, and since I was new, I definately wasn't planning on flying in any wind either, or wanting the higher headspeeds... I also didn't want any negative pitch, because since I was new, and unfamiliar with the sticks, I didn't find it a good idea then to have the heli suddenly slamming to the ground if I got nervous and dropped the collective some... I just made sure I had a few degrees of negative in normal mode just in case of a wind gust to help bring her down, and set my 0 pitch level eyeing it, and found a comfortable spot for the max pitch range at high stick, and adjusted the DX7 accordingly... Its worked for me, and I was well into forward flight as a result from it... Lol... So "setting up" the heli that way worked great ! And this is why I joked back to Dave just a bit ago that it was not needed, but still a must have...

As a beginner that's all I needed to learn was how to hover, how to learn some orientations, and even some forward flight. In my idle up settings, my pitch curves would be the same as my normal mode, but my throttle curves were set higher for a higher headspeed if need be... I didn't even use a pitch gauge until I went to set up my curves to make sure I had equal travel positive and negative for going and trying my first backflips and loops as you saw in those videos I've shown before. It would seem doing it this way one would have to get use to the new positioning of how the sticks are reacting with now negative pitch in the idle ups, but it didn't phase me any ??

But I'am the odd duck ! But didn't need a pitch gauge in the very begining of my adventures with the T-450.

Another thing that I want to get for the 450 in which will also make things quicker, faster, and more effecient, and something your familiar with coming from the RC-Cars and something I never understood in why the heli "Engineers so to speak" didn't come up with long ago, is adjustable turnbuckles without having to pop off the links on our heli's and providing more wear and tear and consuming more time...?

It always makes me wonder where these guys got there knowledge from ?? ! I've always said, you get the heli as a "general" and then its up to you to make it fly well !

Anyhoo, dang I might have to just slap the 500 back together really quick-like as it looks like there might be a break in the weather for Sunday ! Otherwise they say rain all week, and then I can take it back apart and play some more... I just hope I remember how to fly ! Eh.....! Go do a mini-Auto in the 500 for me !!! Come on, be the test pig !

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 5:17 PM

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It never ceases to amaze me how much time newbies spend setting up their helis only to smash the thing up within 15 seconds of trying their first hover (and I was one of them!!!).

Its only as complicated as they make it become... The more they make it complicated, the more time there going to be spending scratching there azz ! LMAO....

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 5:35 PM

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Lol, it's rainy today, I was hopin to get a few flights n, but idk if that's gonna happen. I'll have a gander at the eyeball pitch guage next time I set pitch n c how it looks. It does sound good for fine tuning. I thunk the actual guage gives me a good starting idea of how much to adjust. Then maybe try urins method for fine tuning, can't hurt to try...eh!?? I'm always open to new ideas!!

Sweet, I just timed out on my iPhone. I love rcu's timeouts. Glad I copied it lol

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 5:53 PM

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Ouch, Uncle Jeff! You really took the strap to my hide!! LOL I cut & pasted both previous posts & printed them out to read again. I'll get back to you, bud!!!! lol

Wow, I didn't know they still made Weller soldering guns. I've got 2 that are at least 30 yrs old. One is a "2 speed" with twin "headlights" - real deluxe. So far I haven't felt the need for anything that big. I use a smaller iron for everything.

[Clean tip, tinned wire, a touch of solder on the tip, solder between the tip & the piece & you should be good to go, Eddie!]

Thanks for the tip you gave somebody about watching the tail for nose in. I didn't quite do that but I stopped watching the main shaft & I improved immediately! Got some tens of seconds side in - both sides even!!!

As soon as I got the Losi buggy & started a thread on it, somebody told me to get turnbuckles to make life easier. IMMEDIATELY, I thought Y-O-Y didn't the helis have those???

Randy - man I feel for you, I'm on furlough today. Every day I show up to work I expect to see chains on the doors! Not a very pleasant way to live! Gary sent me a set of blades but I've been having trouble getting them to work right on the Walkera (4-1 & 4G1a) blade holders. I think I've got all the bugs out now with some very good suggestions from him & need to test but like you the mood is hard to come by! Hang in there man!!!

Ivan - PLEASE HELP ME OUT HERE!!!! Tell them how important setup is!!!!! You guys.... lmao

Wind looks fairly reaonable & the temp went up, sooo may have to take the 450 outside for a bit.

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 6:04 PM

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Hey Chuck..

I just got in the habit of using the Weller when I started using larger lipo's with 10-12 gauge wire. My little iron couldn't cut it... sure the wire would get hot... hot enough to burn my fingers, but not hot enough to flow solder. Now, in two seconds I'm done tinning that big bunch of wire.

I'd much rather use my little iron, but it's not hot enough. It was plenty hot for 3C 2200 mAh batteries and controllers. When I replaced the wires on my Align servos, I used the small iron... quick work there!

But yeah, it is a trip down memory lane. I've had a Weller gun since I was a kid making 1/24 scale slot cars from scratch.

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Chuck, thanks for the thoughts my friend, and I wish you all the luck with your job as well. Life changes, we all deal with it and so will you and I if things change for us.

Jeff, yes I did fly a 9257 on 6V. It was only for a short time until I got my "good" tail servo back from repair (crash damage) so I can't say how long the 9257 would last at 6V. I do know that plenty of people fly higher voltage on their servos than they are recommended at. If you do it and "fry" the servo don't blame me.

You could just buy a "good" Hitec 5084 which is rated to 6V, is faster, smaller, and lighter than a 9257.

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I had this written earlier but the "upload images" link didn't work so I saved it. I'm just going to paste it here, but before I do I wanted to add that I feel for anyone who's worried about keeping, or has already lost, his job. I've been through it before and I know it's a terrible feeling in your gut. Young guys may be able to bounce back, but after you reach a certain age you wonder if you'll be hired again, especially at the pay you're used to.

Hey guys. I've sure missed a lot of what's going on here. I have had a chance to see some of the nice pics and vids, though.
As it's getting colder and been windy, I've been flying the planes a little more. Last Sat. was pouring rain - over 5 inches. But, Sunday was 60° F and calm. Took my son to the club flying field so he could finally fly the mini Super Cub I got him for his 15th birthday in Sept. As it turned out, everyone in the club had the same idea, and they all brought planes (odd for a heli club). My son did great. He had only flown my Exceed Cub twice before and that's the extent of his flying. He had that mini SC doing loops and everything. It's just one of those planes that wants to stay up in the air no matter what you do. Everyone loved our planes, and Joey had great fun. He had done great Saturday at the New England Regional cross country meet in Conn. and really deserved a little fun. Joey does cross country and winter track to stay in shape for lacrosse, which is his best and favorite sport.
Chuck, the ACT works great. I've flown his plane several times with it, and he's used it now, and there have been no problems at all. Haven't flown over any reflective surfaces, but have flown in bright sunshine and it performs perfect. I'll be answering that email pretty soon, too.

I've got a couple more planes coming. I just couldn't resist the deals, and they were on my list of planes I want. The first one is the HobbyKing P51D Mustang, which is actually the Art-Tech P51 but without the RX. The other is the Hobby Zone Super Cub. It needs an RX too, but it was a great deal. I want to put floats on it. I'm sure you all know why.
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OK. During the couple weeks before, and also since, last Sunday, I've been to the flying field a few times. Even though it was something like 48° out, my hands got cold - especially my right thumb. I'm a hardy fellow at 6' and 200 pounds, and I'm used to Maine winters, so I was surprised that I had to warm my hands between flights. The rest of me was warm with only a sweat shirt on.
If you guys don't mind, I'd like some opinions on a new product. First I'd like to know if anyone has seen something like this that already exists, then, if not, I'd like to know if the idea has any merit. It's an insulated mitt that you place your radio in. The picture is just a rough idea to explain the product, not what it would actually look like.

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Ooops. Well, now I'm finding them all over the place. I don't know why I didn't before. I guess someone already had the idea. The only real difference is that I expected it to sell for about $13 unheated.

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Ouch, Uncle Jeff! You really took the strap to my hide!! LOL I cut & pasted both previous posts & printed them out to read again. I'll get back to you, bud!!!! lol

Oh my good father Chuck ! No intention of strapping anything anywhere there mister....

Well, maybe a lipo in one of your heli's to keep ya flying....

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PLEASE HELP ME OUT HERE!!!! Tell them how important setup is!!!!!

Which was my whole point and example in my post, is that set-up goes far and beyond just the head of the heli is all, and is VERY important... ! And even still can be configured in many different ways. For example look at Benoah's Trex 500, and how his head is configured below... And his heli flyes great ! All those missing bits that just aren't needed huh ?! Now I wonder how he is going to use a pitch gauge with no flybar now ?!

This is just one "set-up" or configurations of many out there...

If one is still struggling, he needs to configure his setup to what works for him, not what others are doing IMO...

Randy ~

I know a few guys who still use the 9257 on 6v's and still no problem... Snjbird who's some of his vids I've showed here is one after a few years of doing it even ! Crazy.... And he is one who should be sponsored ! But yeah, that was my hinting for that for the future, no more Futaba tail servo's for me !

Didn't you tell me this anyway like way over a year or so ago anyway...? (LMAO)... Now I need to apply the advice !

Gary ~

The mitt looks good....! VERY reasonable among that from all the others out there also for sure.... +1.... That was one downfall from previous posts that I've read about them mitts was the price... The other, was that even if there were "braces" inside to help keep the sticks getting conflicted with the material, most found the mitt still got in the way of things though. There has been threads about it on Helifreak. The ones without the braces were the worse ones I heard... I've never tried one, but when it gets cold out, or the wind is houling, I'd try anything ! Burrrrr......!

Tell Chuck he needs those EZ Blades !! LMAO.......

Hope things have been well for ya...

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 11:06 PM

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Eddie... cleaning the tips... Wet sponge. Seriously. Heat up the iron, then wipe it on the sponge. If you want to clean it to the metal, just use a light metal brush. After you clean the tip to the metal, flow some solder on it, that'll make it easier to solder, as well. Also, like Jeff, I use a Weller soldering gun on connectors. It heats up pretty quick and you don't have to leave it on the connector very long at all to get it hot enough to flow solder and that's important because plastic on connectors can melt. Tinning wires is also easy with more heat.

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Like Scott says, one way is the wet sponge, another way is to use a Brass Sponge, it's better then a wet sponge, because it doesn't temperature shock your soldering tip. The biggest thing that most people don't do is to get the piece hot enough to melt the solder. That allows it to wick and flow properly (and to give you a good soldering joint).

I usually tin the soldering iron (to help with heat transfer) and place the soldering iron on the connector (for example). On the opposite side, I apply the solder, when the piece gets hot enough the solder flows into the area (and wicks into all the small areas).

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 11:23 PM

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Dave - I'm not sure if anybody mentioned Loctite! Must have. I've talked to Gary (SuperSkids) & Ivan (9sec240) a lot about setups & they are both convinced that it is critical to get it ''right'' to fly well & it makes it easier (I can attest to that 1st hand!). I don't mean to speak for them. but they've convinced me! Now if I could just figure out how to do it! Good luck. The 450 is something else to fly & GREAT FUN. If you can fly the FP pretty well, the move to the 450 should be smooth! Did you ever manage FFF with the FP?

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Hey Chuck!

I think loctite was mentioned, but it was soooooo many pages ago! lol. As far as flying the FP, I can happily fly tail-in and side-in and I get about 30s of nose-in (ever increasing). I've started FF, but not FFF. I'm starting to tell when it's my problem, and when it's the helis problem (response, rate gyro, etc.), so I figured it was time to start looking for my next bird.

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/20/2009 11:28 PM

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Hey, you can practice soldering and start cutting away servo, gyro, esc and all those wires to get them shorter

lets not get carried away now lmao.. nah i would love to shorten everthing up, as i have gobs of wire everywhere. i havnt figured out how to do that yet though. i do still need to trim down my fins. at least the horizontal one. i trimmed it down on the other 450, and now i dont even like the way it looks with the whole fin back there, so i will deffinately pull it off and trim it down.

ServoCity sells the servo connectors & pins. I've dealt with them lots of times in the past, so I can say they are a good place to buy from.

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/21/2009 1:33 AM

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I think I'm going to check out Outrunner mode on my Castle tomorrow. Might as well compare. Remember that boredom thing... hitting home hard, now.

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I am trying to find out if the golf dome is open tonight for some flying. I really need some stick time. I am flying this weekend for sure though. Weather is looking decent (in the 50s) and I am STOKED!!!

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Yes Chuck... Setup is key to a good flying helicopter.. the rest is stick time!!! You flying this weekend Chuck?

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I wish I had a dome around here to visit... The best place would be the Pontiac Silverdome, it's a wreck now, though....

Scott, home alone and bored....

I did change to outrunner mode... flying tomorrow... 50's here, too!

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/21/2009 3:42 AM

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I am trying to find out if the golf dome is open tonight for some flying. I really need some stick time. I am flying this weekend for sure though. Weather is looking decent (in the 50s) and I am STOKED!!!

dam, i wish there was a golf dome here too. i havnt flown all week, but unless its pouring rain 2m im flyin no matter what. seems like everytime i get in a groove, i get a patch of unflyable weather that sets me back or overtime or some chit. even though i hate workin 12s, i cant complain 2much. id rather work 12 than 0.

i am stocked too though. cant wait to get out there. i actually packed my helis in the car today, but got off on a wild solderin iron hunt. apparently its impossible to find a 60w iron. guess ill just work on figurin it out with this 40w. from what you guys have told me and what ive read, it should be plenty any ways. i just gotta master the technique. course, ya just cant go wrong with more power, ARR, ARRRR ARRRRRRR.

so ne ways, i ran all over town and didnt find chit, by that time i didnt have time to stop and fly.

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Hey gang!

Ivan, awesome pix of the racecar, sorry about the fire. Looks sweet tho. Seems like everyone is doing great. I will be going to the local club field tomorrow to get some in some more gasser action - the Tx and Rx batteries are charging now

Hope there aren't a lot of folks there.

My wife surprised the hell out of me today and presented me with an AMA membership! Woohoo!

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RE: Struggling with Single Rotor basics - 11/21/2009 4:13 AM

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Jeff - there are bright & clever people who do things like the pics you showed, you who are always tinkering & experimenting & there's me! Like you said at your own pace - I'm really sloooooow.

See the FP below. I'm still "struggling" with the blade holders, though!

Ivan - I was out today & it was a bear! The wind started whipping down the driveway like crazy. The 2nd batt it was all I could do to keep it in the air tail in! Good practice though. I'm really sorry now I decided to wait until spring for more batts! You bet I'll be out over weekend if the wind isn't too bad.

Gary - I like the idea of the Tx bag but I knida' thought there would be problems with the sticks. If I can find some gloves that keep my fingers warm & let me "feel" the sticks I'd buy a pair. I thought about nicking the pair of white cotton ones I used as pall bearer last week but they took them away from me! Ya, I'm sick, I know....

Gary - Good news about the planes flying! Glad to hear the ACT worked. I saw the P51D & almost bought it yesterday!!! I realized by the time it got here there would be snow on the ground - another spring project.

Dave - good job on the skill set! I'm still working on side orientation. It's easier with the well tuned 450 than the FP (except Gary's of course!). I've been using the msR in the house but it's almost too easy. I can even do some nose in with that. I've been trying to do some circles but that ain't going too well, good thing the msR is 1 tuff little heli.

After the heli, I ran 2 packs thru the Losi in the street out front - way cool & STILL no broken parts. lol

Chuck

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